[Template] Old-style pushpins for Streets & Trips 2009 / MapPoint 2009

Here you go, attaching a zip file that contains 2 template files (ST09 & MP09). The pushpin images in these files were downloaded from the MS Download center


ST09 & MP09 Template files (v1).zip (EDIT: You may wish to scroll down to post #5 to download 2nd version of this file instead)

Gladwin, thanks much. . This is the easiest way to add the old-style pushpin symbols to the new version of Streets and Trips 2009, or MapPoint 2009.

1. Download the above file

2. Unzip it

3. Copy & paste the template to the following folder on your computer:

• For users of Windows Vista, browse to ProgramData\Microsoft\Microsoft Streets & Trips\16.0\Templates
• For users of Windows XP, browse to \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Streets & Trips\16.0\Templates

Thanks to toyfountain for the above correct folder locations. Further he writes: "Microsoft modified the location of the default template in S&T 2009. More information about this can be found in the help file. In Vista, ProgramData is a hidden folder. It needs to be made visible in the control panel file options."

From the help file of S&T 2009


To create a default template

1. Create a new map or modify an existing map with the features you'd like to see each time you open a new map.(use the template so kindly provided by Gladwin).
2. On the File menu, click Save as.
3. In the Save As dialog box, click the arrow next to the Save as type box, and then choose Map template from the list.
4. In the Save in box, browse to the following folder (depending on your operating system): (S&T 2009 with Vista openned to this directory by default when saving as a map template is selected. If it doesn't the ProgramData file is hidden by default in Vista.)
   • For users of Windows Vista, browse to ProgramData\Microsoft\Microsoft Streets & Trips\16.0\Templates
     
   • For users of Windows XP, browse to \Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Microsoft Streets & Trips\16.0\Templates
   
   
5. Click New North American Map.stt.
6. Click Save.
7. When prompted about replacing New North American Map.stt, click Yes to replace the Streets & Trips default template with your map.

A useful set of templates.

Just a quick note: the above templates only have the symbols from MapPoint 2002 - not the additional symbols (flags, etc) that were introduced in MapPoint 2004.


Richard

Here you go, attached is a zip file that contains 2 template files (ST09 & MP09). This second edition includes many missing symbols from the first post - including colored flags! These pushpin images came from the 2004/2006 set.


ST09 & MP09 Template files (v2).zip (EDIT: You may wish to scroll down to post #10 to download 3rd version of this file instead -- v3 only available for S&T)

Thanks - I'll update the links from my "How do I get the old pushpins back?" article on my page.

Richard

Thank you Gladwin for the full PushPin template. I have one problem, however. When launching S&T 2009, I do get the old and new pushpins. That is just great! However, when I load an old S&T 2007 map, I do not get the original pushpins that I had on that map and the PushPin menu, only shows the original 2009 set.

Your anybody else help would be appreciated. Thank you!

HankSwat, I tested it, too, and yes, you are correct, older files will only contain new pushpins after the files are converted to new version. As a work-around, you could try the following method: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/978-easy-way-add-old-pushpins-streets-trips-2009-a

Thanks for the suggestion, but I am aggravated about having to jump hoops and spend a lot of time to get my older maps to be what they originally where. I feel that MS did a great disservice to their established customers when they wacked the pushpin menu. I also feel that they should rectify their mistake with a program update that works.

I'd like to point out that Larry's (Microsoft) post #5 with the revised push-pin set is still remiss of the alphabet pushpins.

The third version now with more alphabet but less Mappoint. Sorry I don't have Mappoint 2009 so I could only do the Streets and Trips template.

ST09 Template file (v3).zip

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jhinman

Great work.

By the way, I deleted the earlier posts to prevent confusion. The issue was my installation. All is OK now. Excellent work.

Thanks, jhinman for the template update. Now, we need someone to come up with a way that this template displays the added pushpins when converting a pre-2009 map. When converting a pre-2009 map, only the limited 2009 push-pin set displays in the menu and the map's pushpins are converted to a generic variety.

Hope that some programming genius can help here.

MapPoint 2009 has 46 pushpins in its SYMBOLS collection; however the 46th pin is not visible in the "Create Pushpin" drop-down list of pushpin symbols. The only way to assign this symbol to a dataset or to pushpin is programatically:

i.e. oMap.DataSets(1).Symbol = 45 (zero-based)

Anybody know why that is?

Here is a zip file containing all 336 pushpin images from MapPoint 2006.

Has anyone else noticed that all of the templates mentioned in this thread have SYMBOLS collections that contain not only the pushpins described, but also other images such as weather-related bitmaps which can be assigned to pushpins programatically, but do not appear on the "Create Pushpin" drop-down list?

Is there a way to remove these from the Symbols collection? They do not exist in the original New North American Map.ptt template. But if you simply start MapPoint and then click Save As and create a new template file (remember, we have done absolutely nothing to the pushpin list), quit out of MapPoint, MapPoint with the new template file, if you analyze the SYMBOLS collection, it will contain new records (again, not visible, but available programatically). It's as if the Save As Template routine always stuffs additional objects into the SYMBOLS collection.

Any thoughts?

Puzzled,

Chris

Attached Files

MP06All336PushpinImages.zip (275.2 KB)

Larry,

Thanks for the MP 2009 template. However, this template contains a lot of additional entries in the Symbols collection in addition to the MP2006 pins. When I open a map with this template (in a MapPoint.Application or using the MapPointControl object) and spin through the SYMBOLS collection, I come up with 467 elements.

Dim oApp as New MapPoint.Application
Dim oMap as MapPoint.Map
Dim i as Integer
Dim s as String

set oMap = oApp.NewMap("C:\Test\Larry.ptt")
For i = 1 to oMap.Symbols.Count
s = s & CStr(i) & " " & oMap.Symbols(i).Name & vbCrLf
Next i

'Display s in some multi-line textbox control to see the results

You will see that the 1st 45 elements are the pin symbols that come with MP 2009. The 46th element also is part of MP2009, but is not visible in the "Create Pushpin" drop down. Elements 47 through 96 have no names (they are images of a red "home plate" with white numbers 1 - 50) and again are not visible in the "Create Pushpin" drop down. Elements 97 - 156 are weather bitmaps (4 sets of 15 images). Finally, elements 157 - 467 represent most of the 2006 pins, but the pins are not in the correct order and 26 pins are missing.

Ideally, we should have a SYMBOLS collection that contains 382 elements (46 from MP 2009 plus 336 from MP 2006). The smallest collection that I can create contains 432 elements (46 from MP2009, 50 elements representing red "home plates" with white numbers 1-50, 336 elements from MP2006). I have attached that template to this post.

Attached Files

New North American Map(09plus06Pins).zip (26.2 KB)

I need some help. I changed to MP2009 running XP. I have an old file MP2002 file that I opened with MP2009. I can't seem to get the pushpins to work on the old file. I did the steps listed for this fix MPPushpin.zip . However I cannot find the 2009 directory. The pushpins work on new maps but not the old file. Any suggestions?

Hi stanlevy,

It was also my incorrect assumption that after custom pushpin symbols are added to the default template, the symbols will automatically appear also in old version files when they are converted to new version format.

When you convert your v2002 file into MapPoint 2009 format, you will still need to add the custom pushpin symbols to the file after the conversion, as far as I know.

Do I have to these 1 at a time or is there a file that will do it
automatically?

This small utility will allow you to add the missing custom symbols to MapPoint in "batch mode"

<edit>Expired link removed</edit>

It also occurs with a newly saved 09 .est pre replacement of template

I downloaded this and the pushpins are there which is great but i can't figure out how to import my current map?

Hi bmrncon, and welcome to the forums. Could you please describe in detail what it is that you are trying to achieve?

I think I share the same problem as bmrncon. I believe I have checked all the proper threads in this and other forums. I have a map developed with 2007S&T that contains ~500 pushpins, symbols, etc. from the old set. The new ones assigned automatically by 2009 are not descriptive enough. e.g., Previous yellow and red pushpins are now all red (actually maroon). They need to be two different colors.

I copied the new template. When opening a new file in 2009, I can now see the 2006 pushpins. When I open my existing file (the one with all the data in it), the 2006 pushpins are not available. How can I open an existing file in 2009 and be able to view/use the 2006 pushpins?

Thanks in advance.

bump - I also need to load 06 files daily, because the boss man has 06 and sets up GPS routes with different colored flags.

No way to get symbols in 06 files to display properly???? What an upgrade this was....

Hi CrossCrucial,

Welcome to the forums. Try the tool downloadable at MapForums.com: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/978-easy-way-add-old-pushpins-streets-trips-2009-a

Here's a tutorial for loading the template that includes the older S&T pushpins into 2009 - based on Larry's post #5 back in October. Useful for new users starting with S&T.


http://mypointsales.com/pushpins.html

Keith, you are a master at creating easy-to-follow instructional videos . This is a beautiful work, as always. I love the ending of the video! Thanks

What a GREAT instructional video. Thank you.

Please refer to my original posting 1/13/09 (below). Not sure if I am slow but I am just not getting this and it is frustrating. I have read through each of the threads here and on mapforums. It seems like all the different programs and downloads all do the same thing, change the template. I did that and it is fine for new files but I desperately need to update an old file. I would be very greatful if someone could explain why this continues to elude me.

When opening a new file in 2009, I can now see the 2006 pushpins. When I open my existing file (the one with all the data in it), the 2006 pushpins are not available. How can I open an existing file in 2009 and be able to view/use the 2006 pushpins?

herrzuba, if even this tool doesn't do it for you, then I think the only way to accomplish it may be by importing the pushpin symbols you need (one by one ).

Marvin, I finally got it to work. I tried that program earlier but thought it would also change the template file and typed in the wrong folder location. I finally put in the S&T folder location and it updated. Thank you for your help and patience.

Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad it worked!

I loaded S&T 2009 on my laptop yesterday. I then opened a map that I have over 6000 pushpins on (fortunately a copy). I was quite upset to see the change in the pushpins.
Why do they mess with something that works? I truly appreciate this forum. I have not added the template yet, but will report back when I do. Thanks

Thank you for valuable information. Got pushpin set from 2007 S&T as a custom one for 2009 S&T. One problem with it, works 4 times slower. Do you know how to fix this problem?

The following is a quote from Eric's MapPoint Forums (www.mapforums.com):

Gary:
Eric:

My company just got MapPoint and I was going to give everyone the template with updated pushpins. If I do that does it possible revert to the map data back to older data versus more up to date road data?

If you follow the proceedure for importing the complete set of Old-style pushpins, your will not change any of the 2009 map data.

Hi all; newbe here.
I also have discovered the same thing. I have a 2009 file that I created before I updated the template (with the complete set of icons). I needed some additional icons to differentiate between pushpin sets and figured that by changing the template I would have more icons to choose from. No luck, when I open this 2009 file, it only shows the original 09 icon set.

Do I have to import individual icons into the drawing to make them available?

Hi Marvin & all,
can your friend Larry provide a template with updated pushpins/icons for the European version of MapPoint 2009, as I also have the symbol problem. I have just upgraded from AutoRoute 2007 to MapPoint 2009 (we have no choice this side of the pond with the demise of AutoRoutes). I would be very grateful.
Gerard

I just loaded the v3 template and noticed you are missing number 25 from the maroon circles with white numbers. I would never have noticed except I was numbering a set of 26 locations at the time.

Streets & Trips 2009 Template with missing 25 number

Attached Files

New North American Map.zip (33.0 KB)

Hi guys,

I just wanted to say that the new Streets & Trips 2010 no longer has pushpin issues. Please, find more details in the linked review.

Actually, it doesn't...sort of. I've found that Streets & Trips files created in ST2008 or before have their pushpins changed to those in ST2010 automatically, which may work fine for most. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with end-users that seem adament about keeping their pushpins completely the same as they were before, so I need to find, if possible, a way for the files to open in ST2010 without changing the pushpins. I've tried importing the old pushpins and saving a new New North America.sst template, but once I open the file saved from ST2008, the old pushpins disappear and the newer formatted pushpins only appear. Any ideas as to how I can get these files from ST2008 to open without the ST2010 version of the pushpins?

Hi Gristleizer,

Welcome to the forum!

You are correct. The 2008 fork and knife pushpin icon from your 2008 map file will turn into the 2010 version of the fork and knife.

Here is a tip for any adament end-users who need to keep their pushpins completely the same year after year: Use custom pushpin symbols

The custom pushpin images get saved as part of the saved map (.est) file and they'll look the same in all future versions.

Related topics:

• FREE Custom POI map template - contains all the old school pushpins circa 2006 + a growing gallery of other custom pushpins to choose from.
• Using Custom Pushpin Icons in your Maps - guide on how to create your own custom pushpin icons.