Streets & Trips 2009 - HUGE MAP FILES

Hi Folks,

Just recently upgraded to Streets and Trips 2009 and have used it since 2005. 2009 version (retail) is giving me fits. (BTW, I drive a big truck for a living)

First, let me say, I used the Previous patch to install the added (missing) POI things like colored flags and squares.

I then used the POI extracter on my old master maps to exract all my places, then got all the Flying-J data from the other POI website.

Everything looked good until with all my waypoints and such replaced and the map file size was about 620KB.

Then, I started putting in routes and notice it was getting slower and slower to load and save. I then discovered my map files were growing and one got as large as 623 MEGABYTES!!!! (have 1.5 GIG mem on laptop)

So, thinking I did something wrong, started from scratch, fresh install and did it again. Same result.

For some reason, it seems to want to make my files grow to HUGE proportions for even simple 3 point routes.

Anyone else experience this?

PS: Have all the latest Virus updates, etc. Scanned computer using CA and Spyware Doctor, nothing bad.

Thanks!

UPDATE - 11-23-2008 - Messages 6 and 7.

Hi TennesseeTruckDriver,

Welcome to Laptop GPS World.

Which patch are you referring to? Is is the exe file from mapforums.com, or is it one of the three versions of templates downloaded here? If it is the *.exe file, then you could try to uninstall your Streets & Trips 2009 again, re-install it, don't use the .exe "patch" anymore, but rather use one of the templates available at: [Template] Old-style pushpins for Streets & Trips 2009 / MapPoint 2009

I am pretty sure that is the one I used, but I am trying it again and will let you know the result soon, tonight.

8-)

Okay, new install... ran tons of tests.

Seems okay now... hmmm, must have buggered it up somehow before. If anything weird happens in the future, will be sure and let ya'll know!

Sorry for the wasted thread space and thanks!

I'm glad it seems to work OK now.

Woopsy, spoke too soon.

Take a file with my points in it. Save it, then save again under new name. Both 533K size. Close ST.

Start ST again, open the first file, save it as the second file, now it's 547K size. Close ST.

Open ST yet again, open second file, save as a new third file, now it's 561K size. Close ST.

Open ST yet again, open third file, save as the FIRST above file, now it's 576K size. Close ST.

There is for sure a bug somewhere. In every file open save close, NOTHING is touched or changed, only open, save as, close, exit ST.

Yikes! This is bad.

11-23-08 UPDATE:

Loaded the provided V2 map, added ONLY the Flying-J POI's, does the same thing.

Loaded the provided V2 map, DID NOT ADD A THING, DOES THE SAME THING! FILE SIZE GROWS ON EACH SAVE!!!!

I used FILE/NEW and selected the new V2 map (only one there anyway) with the old flags in it on these tests. Something very buggy!


Open NEW MAP FILE. ADD NOTHING, No POI's, No STOPS. SAVE IT AS:

atest1 = 342K

Close ST, restart, Open atest1, save as atest2.

atest2 = 356K

Close ST, restart, Open atest2, save as atest3.

atest3 = 371K


Very Bad.....

I Uploaded the file created from the new (V2) map with FLying-J and My POI's in it after it was created. Save it several times under different names and it changes constantly growing... Like I originally said, on one map that took minutes to save, it had grown to 623 MEG!! in size!

Can someone duplicate the problem?

Thanks!


11-23-08: When I do a HEX dump of the files, the only thing I notice is some kind of structures with Weather0,Weather1,Weather2.thru..Weather9 constantly repeating in the back of the file. The more saves, the larger the file and the more often these Weather structures repeat.

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I just tried to save your file under different names a few times, but I don't see it grow in size. I'm not sure what could be the cause of that on your computer.

Thanks for trying. I have a Dell D610 laptop with XP on it. Maybe SP-3 did something or other, but I never had any problems with ST-2007 or St-2008.

Are you using a weather program like this:

http://www.download3000.com/download_3778.html

It is a weather program that seems to be infected with a virus of some sort? It is may be completly unrelated, but it is just an idea like another...

I am not using any weather program at all, nor any tool-bars in my IE windows. Hmmm... Spyware Doctor doesn't find anything either.

I just tried the same test again using a fresh install and original .STT file. I created 6 .BMP files for the 6 things I use, ran the test again with the same results.

You have to save to a different file name, then CLOSE ST-2009, then reopen ST-2009, open the last file, save it as a different file, CLOSE ST-2009 again, go look at file sizes and each time about 12 to 15 KB is added to the newly saved file. Very repeatable in every configuration. Does it with antivirus turned off, everything else turned off, makes no difference.

It's a bug with my operating system (which I doubt) or with ST-2009, OR I have something in my computer. Still trying to find something, anything that may have infected it...

Thanks.

I create a route with 5 stops total 2100 miles. Save that file. Then, I edit it, save it as a different name and it doubles.

My map files grow to 55 MEG size after doing this 4 times... sheesh. Maybe something to do with the "UNDO" or something?

Please give us the exact 5 stops you are using so we can try to see this on our side...

It doesn't matter where the stops are. Driving a big rig for a living, I create a complete route map to all destinations, usually start where I am, where I load, where I deliver and save it like this:

0145043.est

Then, I SAVE AS like this (in this case, 5 stops after pickup):

PU-1.est

Stop-1.est
Stop-2.est
Stop-3.est
Stop-4.est
Stop-5.est

Then, I edit each PU-x.est and each Stop-x.est file to include only the individual parts to be used in turn. Each time I do, the files start growing to sometimes huge proportions. Each edit/save grows the file...

I have upload my new .stt and the exact files I am using on this current trip. Feel free to load up 0145043.est and save it as Stop-6.est, delete a couple stops, save it again and watch it grow. Doesn't matter how many stops or anything, just starts growing a lot.

Thanks!

PS: On these particular Stop-x.est files, I created them from new individually because the above process grew them too large! Even minor edits/saves grow them a lot!

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