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Garmin is entering the Laptop PC, TabletPC, and UMPC market with its Garmin Mobile PC
Marvin Hlavac

Garmin Mobile PC

Garmin’s Intuitive Navigation on Laptops

Olathe, Kansas, January 3, 2008 — Garmin International, Inc., a unit of Garmin Ltd., today announced Garmin Mobile PC, a navigation package that turns laptops and other mobile PCs into powerful navigators. Garmin Mobile PC was announced in conjunction with the 2008 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, and will be on display at the Garmin booth (#35832, South Hall 4).

“Garmin Mobile PC gives travelers an easy and inexpensive way to get more from a device they already own – their laptop,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “Plus, it offers many of the same real-time features found on high-end portable GPS devices like weather and fuel price information.”

Garmin Mobile PC features the same easy-to-use “Where to?” and “View map” interface found on the Garmin nüvi® and StreetPilot®. With a few clicks, customers can quickly search and route to addresses or nearly six million points of interest like restaurants, hotels, attractions, gas stations and more. In addition, customers can navigate to Outlook contacts stored on their laptop.

Garmin Mobile PC is available in two configurations – a software only package and a bundle with software and Garmin’s new GPS 20x sensor. The software only version is compatible with broadband modems, as well as internal or third-party GPS receivers that provide the industry standard NMEA GPS data via serial or Bluetooth connections. The bundled version includes the new GPS 20x, a high sensitivity GPS sensor with a USB connection. The lightweight GPS 20x has non-skid pads for dash mounting and is less than two inches in length.

Garmin Mobile PC offers much more than traditional trip planning. Users can use their laptop to receive turn-by-turn, voice-prompted directions to their destination, similar to Garmin’s traditional portable navigation devices. If a turn is missed along the way, Garmin Mobile PC will automatically recalculate the route and get them back on track.

Thanks to the route shaping feature, users can select specific roads they want to travel and customize their route to avoid certain roads and geographic areas. Drivers wanting to keep track of their previous route can utilize the track log feature and see an electronic bread crumb trail that shows exactly where they traveled. Garmin Mobile PC also includes a trip computer automatically records trip data.

Garmin Mobile PC also provides free access to Garmin Online services. This real-time, internet data service simplifies trip planning by providing live weather, flight status, hotel rates (U.S. only), fuel prices (U.S. only) and safety camera data (Europe only, with subscription).

The Garmin Mobile PC with GPS 20x bundle will be available in April for a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $99.99. The software only version of Garmin Mobile PC is expected to be available for a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $59.99.
Marvin Hlavac

nialag
Vu sur GNT... Peut-on s'attendre à ce que ce logiciel offre plusieurs langues comme les autres GPS Garmin ???

" Après avoir lancé un logiciel de navigation pour smartphones et PDA, le spécialiste des solutions GPS Garmin propose la même chose mais sur...ordinateur portable, avec sa solution Garmin Mobile PC.
On connaissait depuis quelques mois le logiciel de navigation Garmin Mobile XT, déployé pour commencer sur les PDAPhones Eten Glofiish annoncés en fin d'année. Le fabricant américain de systèmes GPS Garmin s'attaque dorénavant aussi au marché du GPS sur ordinateur portable avec une nouvelle solution qui sera présentée à l'occasion du salon CES 2008 de Las Vegas : l'ensemble Garmin Mobile PC.

Il transforme tout ordinateur portable en véritable système de navigation GPS, avec une interface identique à celle retrouvée sur ses PND ( Personal Navigation Device ), ainsi que les mêmes fonctionnalités comme l'affichage de la météo ou les quelques 6 millions de points d'intérêt couvrant restaurants, hôtels, stations-services...


Fonctionnalités identiques à celles d'un PND
Garmin Mobile PC sera disponible en deux configurations, soit avec le logiciel de navigation seul soit en association avec le récepteur GPS Garmin 20x à connecter en USB. La solution logicielle est bien sûr compatible avec tout système GPS standard.

L'application permet de calculer des itinéraires, d'obtenir des instructions vocales virage par virage ou de recalculer un nouveau trajet à la volée, exactement comme les PND du marché mais avec l'avantage du grand affichage d'un ordinateur portable.

D'autre part, le logiciel de navigation permet d'accdéder au portail Garmin Online Services offrant un certain nombre d'informations supplémentaires, comme par exemple la liste des radars automatiques pour l'Europe.

Garmin Mobile PC sera commercialisé à partir du deuxième trimestre 2008 pour un prix de 99 dollars avec le récepteur GPS Garmin 20x ou 59 dollars pour le logiciel de navigation seul. "


Si c'est le cas il sera sûrement très populaire au Québec !
Marvin Hlavac
Alain, sorry, I myself don't speak French (and English is not my mother tongue either ), but I used Google Translate web page to translate the above. My guess (and hope) would be that the upcoming Garmin Mobile PC will indeed be multilingual. Last week I contacted Garmin about a review copy of the program, but they were in the middle of CES 2008, and told me they would get back to me when CES was over.
nialag
Sorry I was thinking you could read French little bit… Next time I write in French I will add a summary in English. It was a article written in a French European magazine on the same software.

http://www.generation-nt.com/garmin-mobile-pc-gps-ordinateurs-actualite-65964.html

You are right, I hope that this new software will offer the French language…

Tanks
toyfountain
This should make for a nice competition between MS and Garmin, especially if they offer it in french too. Prices are about the same.
nialag
Do you understand that is the turn direction is in English or only the street names ???


"easy-to-use navigation software, turn-by-turn directions that speak street names (English only), route planning and more"


https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=13484


A.
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Alain, sorry, I myself don't speak French (and English is not my mother tongue either ), but I used Google Translate web page to translate the above.
Marvin,

FreeTranslation.com is generally superior to Google's translate page. Here's their translation. As you can see, it's still not perfect but certainly not difficult to understand. Sometimes Google's translations make less sense to me than the original French, which I read only very slowly and painfully. My grade 11 French class was so very long ago.

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Seen on GNT... Can one to expect that this software offers several languages as the other GPS Garmin???

"After launching a navigation software for smartphones and PDA, the specialist of the solutions GPS Garmin proposes the same thing but on. ..ordinateur portable, with his solution Garmin Movable PC. One knew since some months the software of navigation Garmin Movable XT, deployed to begin on the PDAPhones Eten Glofiish announced in year end. The American manufacturer of systems GPS Garmin attacks itself from now on also to the market of the GPS on laptop with a new solution that will be presented to the parlor occasion THESE 2008 of Tired Vegas: the body Garmin Movable PC.

It transforms all laptop in true system of navigation GPS, with an interface the same as the one rediscovered on its PND (Personal Navigation Device), as well as the same functionalities as the billposting of the forecast or the some 6 millions of points of interest covering restaurants, hotels, stations-services..

Functionalities the same as the one of a PND Garmin Movable PC will be available in two configurations, be with the software of only navigation be in association with the receiver GPS Garmin 20X to connect in USB. The solution logicielle is of course compatible with all system GPS standard.

The application allows calculating itineraries, to obtain from the vocal instructions bends by bend or to recalculate a new trip to the steering wheel, exactly as the PND of the market but with the advantage of the big billposting of a laptop.

On the other hand, navigation software allows accdéder to the portal Garmin Online Services offering a number of additional information, as for example lists it automatic radars for Europe.

Movable Garmin PC will be marketed from the second quarter 2008 for a price of 99 dollars with the receiver GPS Garmin 20X or 59 dollars for the software of only navigation. "

If this is the case it will be surely very popular to the Quebec!
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by nialag
Do you understand that is the turn direction is in English or only the street names ???

"easy-to-use navigation software, turn-by-turn directions that speak street names (English only), route planning and more"

A.
It would make sense that the turn directions would be in the selected language. Garmin already has all the necessary language files compiled for their multilingual products for everything except the street names. For instance, I can get many different language files for my iQue 3600. The directions are all in the selected language, but the iQue does not do street names.

Putting the directions into different languages is relatively easy because it only requires the necessary directional words to be spoken in that language and recorded. It does not require any form of speech synthesis.

Converting the text of the street names to spoken words is a very complex process of trying to convert text into some sort of phonemes that can be joined together to create something that sounds like the spoken word. As far as I know, nobody has done the necessary work for anything except English.

Donc en français vous entendrez des instructions directionnelles françaises suivies par la prononciation anglaise drôle du nom de rue.

...ken...
nialag
I hope you are wright...:

Tournez à droite sur St-John Street !

It is not bad !

A.
Ken in Regina
It is important to know that many of the synthesized street names sound very odd in any language, so we English do not have an unfair advantage. The French (or any non-english) street names should sound very ... "interesting" ... when spoken with an english computer accent. Probably nobody will understand them, in any language.

...ken...
nialag
Question ?

"The software only version of Garmin Mobile PC is expected to be available for a manufacturer’s suggested retail price of $59.99."

At that price the maps for US and Canada are includes ?

ie.: "includes the same detailed maps, points of interest and coverage areas as the traditional City Navigator map data"

Or only the software ? And we will have to buy the maps separately ??
Marvin Hlavac
I asked Garmin about the same thing, and yes, it will include USA/Canada map data. I cannot find the email now, it must be on my home PC, but that's what I recall. I'm just not clear on if it is going to be possible for users outside of USA/Canada to use Garmin map products for other parts of the world in conjunction with the new Garmin Mobile PC. I'll try to find out.
Ken in Regina
I'm willing to bet that the software is based on "nroute". It would not make sense to reinvent it. All it needs is for the display to be made prettier, like Streets & Trips.

(EDIT: I just read the announcement again and they have added the same user interface as the Nuvi. So we can probably expect the same features and functions to be available.)

When I installed nroute on my laptop, I already had two Garmin map products installed on the laptop (City Navigator North America, Metroguide Canada). When I ran nroute the first time, it immediately found both map sets and allowed me to choose the one I wanted to use. There is a drop-down list on the left of the menu bar that appears if you have more than one map product installed and you just click the one to display.

I have seven items in the dropdown list on my desktop. I did nothing special to make them available to nroute.

That seems to be the approach Garmin takes. They do not tie their map products to any particular navigation product. That means that once you have their laptop software you should be able to use any of their map products with it. I cannot think of anything in the laptop software that would make it specific to North America .... except for the interface language of the menus.

For the user interface, it is normal for Garmin to make two versions of their software. One is English. The other is EFIGS (English, French, Italian, German, Spanish). In addition to the EFIGS version, I can also get Finnish and Norwegian voice guidance for my iQue 3600.

Once those interfaces and voice guidance packages have been established, it's not difficult to make them available for multiple products. So even if all the languages are not fully supported when the product is first available, I would expect them all to be available very soon after.

I have no personal connection with Garmin, so I have no special knowledge of any of this.

...ken...
nialag
Hi!

I found The Garmin Mobile PC with GPS bundle at "Best Buy" Mc Allen , TX., retail price of 139 U$. (I am in this area until April)

The software only version was not available at this time...

Do you know where to find it ?

Salutations
Marvin Hlavac
You actually see it on a store shelf? I thought it was not yet available (till April 1st)!
nialag
Yes, I saw it Friday… But they had just one pack...
Marvin Hlavac
Cool, I don't think I would have resisted the urge to buy it, even though I don't need the hardware part, just the software ! That's great news, Alain, thanks very much. It looks like we can look forward to feedback from early buyers of Garmin Mobile PC very soon. But I suspect your local Best Buy put it on shelf one week earlier than official release date .
nialag
I apologize I made a mistake, it was not the right bundle…

GPS 18 Deluxe
Part Number: 010-00321-00
Suggested Retail Price: $ 129.99 USD

Turn your laptop PC into a powerful street navigator with the GPS 18 — a GPS sensor bundled with nRoute® and MapSource® City Navigator® software that automatically guides you with turn-by-turn directions and voice prompts to your destination.

Navigate with Ease
The included nRoute and City Navigator DVDs put navigation and detailed maps, including a hefty points of interest database, at your fingertips. To get started, just download the navigation and map data software, connect the GPS 18 receiver to your USB or Serial port and start navigating. Look up addresses and services and get voice-prompted, turn-by-turn directions to your destination — displayed right on your laptop screen!

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=139&pID=6445



The new software is:

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=139&pID=13484

Garmin Mobile PC™
2nd Quarter, 2008
Part Number: 010-00685-00
Suggested Retail Price: $ 99.99 USD

Add full-featured navigation to your Laptop or ultra mobile PC with Garmin Mobile PC. Get maps, millions of POIs, easy-to-use navigation software, turn-by-turn directions that speak street names (English only), route planning and more — all from the trusted leader in GPS navigation, Garmin.
Navigate with Your Laptop
Packed with preloaded maps, millions of destinations and full GPS navigation capabilities, Garmin Mobile PC software turns your laptop into a powerful street navigator. Its intuitive interface greets you with two simple options "Where to?" and "View Maps." Easily look up addresses and services and get turn-by-turn directions that announce the names of exits and streets to your destination. Also receive automatic corrections if you stray off course. With Garmin Mobile PC, you can upload custom points of interest, such as safety cameras, and conveniently navigate to Outlook® Contacts.

Sorry but it was similar....!
Marvin Hlavac
I just spent a few minutes searching the Web to see when Garmin Mobile PC is expected to be in stores. I was under the impression it was supposed to be released today. I e-mailed Garmin a few days ago, but received no reply. I've checked with about 10 website stores, and they all report 0 items in stock. Only one store gives actual ETA: April 9, 2008. Has anyone seen any other advertised expected arrival date? (I can't wait ).
Ken in Regina
GPS Central in Calgary just says "Q2 2008".

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
I phoned a local GPS store. "Sometime in April" was his answer.
mod
I see that CascadeGPS are offering Garmin Mobile PC with receiver at a discount. I didn't complete the order/check-out process, but there was no mention of delayed delivery, as far as I went.
Has anyone dealt with this firm? If so, would you recommend them?
I am an Australian, but expect be in USA/Canada May through July. I would have the item delivered to a USA address.
I have Microsoft S & T 2006, which I used on a previous visit, but am considering upgrading. Yes, I've been following the threads here and elsewhere about S & T 2008. The improved receiver is a drawcard.
mod
Marvin Hlavac
Hi mod,

Welcome to Laptop GPS World.

I'd suggest to wait a bit. I suspect some websites are just simply not setup to display if an item is actually in-stock or not. I've checked several websites, but nobody shows they have it available. One site expects it on the 7th, and another one on the 9th.

Wait till you see a store specifically stating on their website that the item is in stock. I think you have plenty of time, especially since you will be ordering it to be delivered to a USA mailing address. (Be prepared to try to order from several stores, as some may not allow shipping to address different from the one associated with your credit card.)
Marvin Hlavac

Garmin Mobile PC will not be limited to USA/Canada market. In the above screenshot you can see two new SKUs with European map data. There is still no MSRP, but I would expect it to be similar to the North American versions.

The above screenshot was taken this morning, April 12, 2008. Check Garmin website for updated information: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=13484&pvID=14861
Ken in Regina
I will be watching with interest to see what people think of the product and some of the specific features. Right now I have nroute working nicely with the GPS sensor from S&T 2008 so there will have to be a pretty good package of enhancements for me to even consider it.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
It looks like Garmin Mobile PC is starting to become available. TigerGPS has the software-only version in stock, and they were shipping them out today. The version which includes the GPS receivers is marked as "pre-order".
tcassidy
GPS Central has the software and the sensor available separately but not as a package. GPS City Ca shows preorder and US says April 15.TVNAV US lists all 3 combinations but doesn't specify if they are in stock or not.

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Because my last email request for a review copy of Garmin Mobile PC remains unanswered, and since this product is inexpensive, and since it is starting to show up in stores, and especially since I just cannot wait... I decided to order .

But I word of caution to those who are impatient like me - don't be impatient - take your time, otherwise you may end up making a mistake like I just did. Here's what happened:

I placed my order at TigerGPS - the only store today that actually I trust has it already in stock. I placed the order rather quickly, without paying too much attention to any details. When it was already too late I noticed I was charged quite a lot for shipping. I ended up being charged $60.00 for shipping (+ $59.99 for the product itself).

But as I said, it's all my fault. I shouldn't have rushed through the order form. I should have read what the shipping from USA to Canada would cost me. It's all there on their web site:

Quote:
International customers: we only ship via UPS or FedEx International Express, which costs $60-$90, and is fully insured and guaranteed and generally only takes 2-3 business days to arrive.
Well, I'm looking forward to it, anyway !!!
tcassidy
Marvin,
I am reallly sorry to hear that.
Next time check out TVNAV for Garmin products. They are likely to have it first, are easily as dependable as Tiger and ship USPS. It will take a week if held up by customs but is way cheaper in shipping and probably in product cost.
Terry
Ken in Regina
Marvin,

I don't know about who has it soonest but I have found GPS Central in Calgary to be dead stone reliable. If they say it's in stock you can count on it. If you have the slightest question about anything just call their toll-free number and talk to a real live person. The foundation of their business is industrial (oil/gas, survey, etc.) so they have to be very knowledgeable about the technology they sell, unlike the companies that service mostly consumers.

Oh yeah, they're in Calgary so no issues with trans-border stuff.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
Ken, I'll keep that in mind, thanks. My problem is just that I was impatient, and I wanted to get my hands on Garmin Mobile PC as soon as possible...

I just received e-mail from Garmin - a review copy of Garmin Mobile PC is on its way from Garmin: "Pending customs, I’m guessing it should arrive on Thursday." The one I ordered from TigerGPS on Sunday, if I get lucky, will arrive this afternoon (Wednesday), or more likely on Thursday as well.
Ken in Regina
I'll look forward to your impressions, Marvin. Do you also have nroute to compare it to and see if there are significant enhancements?

...ken...
tcassidy
I suspect it will look similar to the existing PDA Mobile XT version with the next street ribbon on the top and the speed and heading /ETA on the bottom. The routing layout will also be the same, possibly with a qwerty keyboard though as there is more screen real estate. Spoken street names are also listed as a benefit. nRoute uses a lot of screen on a UMPC and is not friendly to the lack of a keyboard.

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Yes, it will likely be similar to Nuvi PNDs. I have not tried nRoute myself - I was going to, when I first open this website 6 months ago, because I wanted to write a review for the new site. But then I found out Garmin was going to release this new Garmin Mobile PC, so I never bothered with nRoute anymore. Do you guys think there is future for Garmin nRoute after Garmin Mobile PC?
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Do you guys think there is future for Garmin nRoute after Garmin Mobile PC?
There has been no "marketing" of nroute for the very good reason that it generates no revenue for Garmin, other than the potential for future map upgrades. So the new product will do well, or at least better than nroute, simply because people will know about it.

With nroute there is not even a "present", never mind a future, for it because it's not promoted. As far as I know hardly anyone knows about nroute, including current Garmin customers with Garmin map products and Mapsource. Of the few that are even aware of its existance, I would bet that an even smaller percentage know where to find it.

...ken...
tcassidy
Marvin,
nRoute is Garmin's replacement for the routing functions of Map Source. I think it looks great on a laptop. Unfortunately, I haven't used a laptop in a vehicle since the days of Delorme's Map'n'Go so I can't comment on its usefulness in a real world situation. I suspect it would be fine.

Get a copy. Its free and will use whatever Garmin map you have unlocked to your GPS. Or use Metroguide Canada v4 if you have it as its not locked.

Terry
Ken in Regina
Hi Terry,

A little history ... Garmin created nroute for those folks who bought Garmin's wireless GPS (GPS10, GPS20, etc.) receivers and wanted to be able to use them with their laptops.

They originally didn't expect this sort of thing. They thought everyone would use them with PDAs and Mobile XT or Que. That's why they packaged them that way (although they did make the receivers available as stand-alone products). They found that people with the PDA products wanted to also use the receivers with their laptops. And a few of the people who bought the stand-alone receivers also asked for that capability.

So they had to scramble to provide some sort of alternative for those who wanted to do it on their laptops to keep them from defecting to S&T or some other product.

nroute was a hack of Mapsource to add nav capabilities in a really big hurry. That way, anyone familiar with Mapsource can start using nroute almost immediately. And naturally it instantly works with any Garmin map products already installed in Mapsource.

They must have seen enough potential market out there to do a "proper" laptop product, which we are now seeing released.

Ain'tcha glad ya ast???

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Marvin,

Here's the link to the nroute page on Garmin's site.

...ken...
tcassidy
Ken,
As a GPS10 (serial) owner, I thought MapSource still had GPS functionality at that time. The nRoute interface was certainly nicer but MapSource was usable until the GPS functionality was dropped in later versions. Unfortunately, I don't have a version older than 6.1 to check.
Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Only minutes ago I got my package. The shipment from Garmin arrived first, I'm not sure what happened to the box from TigerGPS, which I though would arrive sooner.

Here it is... just very quickly, as I have to leave home within minutes...



I don't think I will have the time to install it tonight - and definitely I wouldn't be able to take it on the road tonight, but I will set it all up very early tomorrow morning, and screenshots and comments will follow.
tdma134
Marvin, I can't wait to here your opinion on this. I have been waiting for someone to review it. If all goes well then I'll be placing an order for my laptop.

Thanks again for a great website.
tcassidy
Wow! Big box for a small product.
I too am looking forward to your review. My main interest is how it will look on a small screen though.Keep the great info coming.

Terry
tcassidy
I just received my copy of the software only. Looks ok on my UMPC, not quite as clean as iNAV4. This did come with the 2009 version of Garmin maps. This does include street addresses in Ladysmith (hooray).

One problem installing it was entering the product key; the on-board keyboard would not work,mouse right-click paste would not work. I finally had to hook up Bluetooth keyboard just to type it in.

Now, the major problem. I cannot get it to find either of my Garmin Bluetooth GPS devices. I tried with the laptop and the UMPC
tcassidy
Got it working with the internal GPS on the UMPC and its looking good. 8+ satellites indoors sitting on my desk. Unfortunately this device does not have a PrtScr button so I will have to take a picture.
Terry
d0tech
Just to let you guys know...there's an update for the software.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00685-00&cID=139&pID=13484
tcassidy
Got it working with the internal GPS on the UMPC and its looking good. 8+ satellites indoors sitting on my desk. Unfortunately this device does not have a PrtScr button so I will have to take a picture.
Terry
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d0tech
Can you confimed that it does not have an OSK? A member over mp3car.com said it does not have one.
tcassidy
I cannot find an on-screen keyboard. It does respond to using the stylus and writing on the screen in the appropriate box. I would hate to try that on the road.
Its always something, isn't it!

Terry
tcassidy
Next...how do I transfer my favourites from MapSource? I guess I need to call Garmin again.
Terry
Ken in Regina
3D differential is good in the house. I like that the stuff on the left and right edges of the screen is transparent.

Can you do me a favor and see if they've add all the street names in Fernie, and maybe some addresses, too? Before 2009 there is a street grid but it only has about three of the streets named and no addresses. It's one of my benchmarks to see how much they are improving.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
Now that Garmin Mobile PC is available in stores, if I could kindly ask everyone to continue discussion at the following link:



I posted several pictures there already .

Thanks!
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