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Looking for correct GPS for ALK CoPilot and Drivers Daily Log
tumbleweed
This is my first post on the wonderful site, thanks to it I have found A LOT of what I was looking for. I found out that my GPS receiver that came with my ALK CoPilot 11 is apparently not a "real" receiver, hence why I can't get it to work with anything else I want to, so that brings up my question: I need a receiver that works with CoPilot 11 and another program I currently am using Drivers Daily Log. Would it be better to get just a wired USB one, or will a handheld unit also work? If a handheld unit will work it would open up more uses but I don't want to spend even more money on something that wont work again. Also would all handhelds work? Thanx in advance for any help.
Marvin Hlavac
Hi tumbleweed,

:welcome: to Laptop GPS World.

1. The receiver that you have referred to as "apparently not a real receiver" may be a "software" receiver. I recall ALK (and also Dell) sold a very inexpensive version of ALK CoPilot with a GPS receiver. It was around $49. However, the trick was that the GPS receiver didn't work with any other software, and, but I'm not sure about this, I think even the software might have not worked with any other GPS receiver. Is this the version that you have? How did you get it? Did it come with your laptop? Or did you buy it separately? How much did you pay for it?

2. Some handhelds work with PC GPS software, but it may be less expensive to just purchase a simple USB GPS receiver. However, before you spend any money on anything, it will be important to determine if your version of ALK CoPilot is capable of working with a GPS receiver other than the one it came with.
tumbleweed
1. my best guess is that copilot11 came with the software version of the reciever due to it only works with copilot and nothing else sees it as a gps even when i tell it what com port it is on.its "gps-cp-101 model number d15u8" i got one with copilot navigator and one with copilot11,11 was a little over $300.00 and nav im not sure,it was given to me by the gentleman i worked for but i think he got it a walmart around $50.00.
2. im not real concerned with price if i can get a handheld to work with my pc it would b a plus due to the uses like when im playing in the woods on 4wheeler or geocaching. and yes my copilot will work with a different gps i had a bluetooth one that worked well with it unfortunately it was pretty cheap and has quit working.
malaki86
When I purchased CoPilot 9 originally, I had the GPS receiver that came with Microsoft's Streets & Trips 2005. I used this receiver for a couple of years.

I now use a BU-353 USB receiver for everything, which costs in the range of $30-50, depending on where you purchase it from.

In order for multiple programs to use one receiver, you'll need a program such as Franson GPSGate or Xport (xport is 100% free).
tumbleweed
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Originally Posted by malaki86
When I purchased CoPilot 9 originally, I had the GPS receiver that came with Microsoft's Streets & Trips 2005. I used this receiver for a couple of years.

I now use a BU-353 USB receiver for everything, which costs in the range of $30-50, depending on where you purchase it from.

In order for multiple programs to use one receiver, you'll need a program such as Franson's GPSGate or Xport (xport is 100% free).
Yes i bought GPSgate already now i just need to get a gps unit that it can see tnx for the info. how would i know before i purchase a handheld unit if it will connect to and be compatible with copilot and DDL? any way to know?
Ken in Regina
I have Garmin's eTrex Legend HCx. It's primary use is on my mountain bike and hiking and occasionally a little bit of geocaching. It's very quick to get a location fix and will hold it in some pretty awful conditions. It has awesome battery life.

It knows a little bit about geocaching but it is very limited in the length of the cache names and descriptions. If you're seriously into paperless caching, you pretty much need to put the caches in as POIs to get a decent amount of the clues or carry a Palm with something like Cachemate on it.

It also works as a standalone navigation device in the car, in a pinch. Not my first choice for car nav because it's a handheld and has a small screen, but with road maps in it it will autoroute with the best of them.

[Now we get on topic for the purists in this forum...]

It connects to the PC with a USB cable and sends standard NMEA data to the PC. I've used it with MS Streets&Trips and Mappoint, with DeLorme Street Atlas, with iNav's iGuidance and with Garmin's Mobile PC.

It's actually the most sensitive receiver I own (I have two Microsoft USB receivers .. the Pharos 500 and the newer Navation unit .. a Globalsat BU-353 USB unit, i.Trek M7 Bluetooth receiver and Garmin GPS10x Bluetooth receiver).

If CoPilot will accept standard NMEA data you can use the Legend with it and it would be a great handheld. I'm not sure if all of the eTrex models will output the GPS data to the PC but the Legend HCx and Vista HCx both do. I'm pretty sure the GPSMap60CSx and GPSMap76CSx do, too. The Colorado, Oregon and Dakota are all better suited to serious geocaching but I'm not sure if they output GPS data to the PC. You could check over at Geocaching.com. There are lots of users of all of the above Garmin models over there.

...ken...
tumbleweed
Thanx for the info looks like ill prolly go with the Garmin's eTrex Legend HCx, it sounds like it will do what i need,the primary concern is the data to the pc and it being a great handheld thats just a wonderful extra, I do have a palm 800 phone and a palm pilot that i have been doing my geocaching with but the battery dies too fast on the 800. so it looks like now i get to go shopping .....bet my wife will love that..lol
Ken in Regina
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so it looks like now i get to go shopping .....bet my wife will love that..lol
Please tell her I'm .....

...ken...
malaki86
Instead of buying a dedicated handheld unit, why not buy a less expensive GPS puck? Like I said, I paid in the range of $35 for mine (BU-353). I don't have to worry about batteries, bluetooth, etc. It simply plugs into the USB port.
Ken in Regina
Hi malaki86,

If you look back at the original post it states that tumbleweed likes to do some caching and is interested in a handheld that might serve both purposes. That's why I provided the information I did.

...ken...
malaki86
Sorry - I missed the caching part.
tumbleweed
Well thank you all for the great info I did my shopping this morning,unfortunately Walmart didn't carry the legend but they did have the ventureHc very close to the legend,it works wonderful,took me just a few min to get gpsgate to find it but it did and now copilot and DDL both work at the same time plus I can send my cache files direct to the gps. I cant believe the improvment from my last handheld this venture sat in floor of truck behind shifter and never lost satellite signal it even kept signal carrying it inside store......VERY IMPRESSED.once again THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I was so close to punching my computer and running over it with 80000 lbs....lol
Ken in Regina
I'm happy that it works for you. The only difference between the Venture HC and the Legend HCx is the Venture doesn't have an expandable memory card. That means you can only add about 24MB of maps if you ever decide to add detailed maps to it. Otherwise it has exactly the same receiver and features in it.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
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I was so close to punching my computer and running over it with 80000 lbs....lol
tumbleweed, if you ever do decide to perform such durability test with your laptop, please do post photos or a video here at Laptop GPS World.

Ken I just noticed your post count went over 2,000... Congrats & Thanks!!!
harjohns
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Originally Posted by tumbleweed
This is my first post on the wonderful site, thanks to it I have found A LOT of what I was looking for. I found out that my GPS receiver that came with my ALK CoPilot 11 is apparently not a "real" receiver, hence why I can't get it to work with anything else I want to, so that brings up my question: I need a receiver that works with CoPilot 11 and another program I currently am using Drivers Daily Log. Would it be better to get just a wired USB one, or will a handheld unit also work? If a handheld unit will work it would open up more uses but I don't want to spend even more money on something that wont work again. Also would all handhelds work? Thanx in advance for any help.
I have a CoPilot GPS-CP101 antenna, or whatever, device that came with my CoPilot software. It was never used and I hand the software installed on an old XP desktop. Is this what you're looking for?
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