MapSource 6.15.6
Having once 'Found" some 'nearest places', I can't get rid of them!
Maybe I'm blind, but I've read all the documentation, opened every dropdown menu, combed the Internet... I just cannot find a way to Un-Show, or Hide, or in any other way remove those icons from my map!
The Find menu has Categories including 'All' but no category 'None'.
The dam' little icons just won't get off my map. Close the program, it doesn't ask me if I want to Save anything, but when I re-open it, there the little buggers are!
Can I kill them somehow, or have I made them a permanent part of my map?
Having once 'Found" some 'nearest places', I can't get rid of them!
Maybe I'm blind, but I've read all the documentation, opened every dropdown menu, combed the Internet... I just cannot find a way to Un-Show, or Hide, or in any other way remove those icons from my map!
The Find menu has Categories including 'All' but no category 'None'.
The dam' little icons just won't get off my map. Close the program, it doesn't ask me if I want to Save anything, but when I re-open it, there the little buggers are!
Can I kill them somehow, or have I made them a permanent part of my map?
Two ways to get there. One is:
Click the FIND menu.
Click "Recently Found Places".
Click the "Preferences" button.
Click the "Find" tab.
Set it the way you want.
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The other is:
Click the EDIT menu.
Click "Preferences".
Click the "Find" tab.
...ken...
Click the FIND menu.
Click "Recently Found Places".
Click the "Preferences" button.
Click the "Find" tab.
Set it the way you want.
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The other is:
Click the EDIT menu.
Click "Preferences".
Click the "Find" tab.
...ken...
Thanks Ken but that isn't doing it. Even with all Preferences set to 1 (zero is not accepted) the damn things are still there! Let me try further explanation.
Click Find > Find Nearest Places, get popup menu. Top item is Place Category which by default reads "All Points of Interest"
Below this is Subcategory (greyed out), below that is Containing (blank) and below that is the large field for Places.
Places is just chock full of Places!! Places I'd never dream of searching for (like churches). Places I don't want to show up on my map. All told, about 25 of them.
I can choose another Place Category (say Cities) and these appear on the map. If I Cancel, they go away. But nothing makes the churches and (I now notice) graveyards go away!!
Please, make it not so!! Churches....... Graveyards......... What's next?
Click Find > Find Nearest Places, get popup menu. Top item is Place Category which by default reads "All Points of Interest"
Below this is Subcategory (greyed out), below that is Containing (blank) and below that is the large field for Places.
Places is just chock full of Places!! Places I'd never dream of searching for (like churches). Places I don't want to show up on my map. All told, about 25 of them.
I can choose another Place Category (say Cities) and these appear on the map. If I Cancel, they go away. But nothing makes the churches and (I now notice) graveyards go away!!
Please, make it not so!! Churches....... Graveyards......... What's next?
Reduce the map detail setting. Then, when you close the Find box all the icons will disappear, including the churches and graveyards.
Terry
Terry
Thanks, I'll try-- but will they stay invisible when I increase the map detail again later?
Well-- there's another anomaly. I did set map detail lower, and the Places (along with some content) disappear.
I next opened Find Nearby Places-- and the map view 'under' the Find menu has reverted to the same place, same magnification, and same bunch of Places as before. Even though I was looking at a completely different place on the map, at a totally different magnification, and with the detail reduced. Wonder what that's all about?
Well-- there's another anomaly. I did set map detail lower, and the Places (along with some content) disappear.
I next opened Find Nearby Places-- and the map view 'under' the Find menu has reverted to the same place, same magnification, and same bunch of Places as before. Even though I was looking at a completely different place on the map, at a totally different magnification, and with the detail reduced. Wonder what that's all about?
The map zooms in to show all the nearby places when you open the find box. You must have a lot of churches and graveyards near where you are looking.
Terry
Terry
Perhaps! But they remain marked on my map, even after the Find box has been closed.
Maybe your question is...can you select which types of POIs to display in MapSource? No, you can't.
Terry
Terry
But... but... but....
I'll have to take your word. Just seems strange that someone actually chose to display churches and graveyards as a default.
I'll have to take your word. Just seems strange that someone actually chose to display churches and graveyards as a default.
The more POIs the better the advertising copy looks. And how much would they have to pay to get those listings!
I'm not sure what you mean by default. If they are top of your 'Nearest' list, they are probably closest.
Terry
I'm not sure what you mean by default. If they are top of your 'Nearest' list, they are probably closest.
Terry
I guess that's the answer then. Thanks for your help!
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Originally Posted by NotTheSharpestTool
Just seems strange that someone actually chose to display churches and graveyards as a default.
Actually, it's exactly the potential pre-need aspect that was creeping me out!
I hope you have figured out through this discussion that the issue has nothing at all to do with "Found Places". In normal use, Mapsource is simply displaying the points of interest (POIs) at whatever zoom level you want them to show up. That is, if you reduce the detail level, that means Mapsource will show fewer details until you zoom in farther. POIs are considered "details".
If you want to avoid the situation you described about the map returning to its condition (location, zoom level, etc) at your last search then avoid using the "Find Nearest Places" selection. That's always going to take you back to the location of your last search and the zoom level. In order for Mapsource to find nearest places it has to know "nearest to where?" so it makes the only assumption it can and uses the last location you used.
This is actually an artifact left over from the days when Mapsource also had navigation features. "Find Nearest Places" has no place in the modern Mapsource program because it has no concept of "Here" or "current location" any longer.
Instead, click "Find Places". That will leave the map looking exactly as it is when you select the function. It won't mess with where you presently have the map positioned and it won't mess with the zoom or detail levels.
...ken...
If you want to avoid the situation you described about the map returning to its condition (location, zoom level, etc) at your last search then avoid using the "Find Nearest Places" selection. That's always going to take you back to the location of your last search and the zoom level. In order for Mapsource to find nearest places it has to know "nearest to where?" so it makes the only assumption it can and uses the last location you used.
This is actually an artifact left over from the days when Mapsource also had navigation features. "Find Nearest Places" has no place in the modern Mapsource program because it has no concept of "Here" or "current location" any longer.
Instead, click "Find Places". That will leave the map looking exactly as it is when you select the function. It won't mess with where you presently have the map positioned and it won't mess with the zoom or detail levels.
...ken...
'Find Places' is not available-- greyed out.
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Originally Posted by NotTheSharpestTool
'Find Places' is not available-- greyed out.
Terry
Yes, it's Ibycus USA, a non-routable map. I already assumed that was the reason I did not have that choice.
If I have no choice but to use "Find Nearest", how do I move the locked center of attention? (So I'll be looking for the nearest to a different place, you understand.)
Separately, are there any routable US maps available other than through Garmin?
If I have no choice but to use "Find Nearest", how do I move the locked center of attention? (So I'll be looking for the nearest to a different place, you understand.)
Separately, are there any routable US maps available other than through Garmin?
Zoom into any area and that will be the center of your 'Find Nearest Places'
I don't know of any free routable maps of North America but since I have Garmin ones, I've never looked.
Terry
I don't know of any free routable maps of North America but since I have Garmin ones, I've never looked.
Terry
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Originally Posted by NotTheSharpestTool
'Find Places' is not available-- greyed out.
...ken...
Ken, "Ibycus USA, a non-routable map. I already assumed that was the reason I did not have that choice." (post 17)
Ooops, forgot about that post. Sorry.
You are correct. I have lots of maps in Mapsource, both routable and non-routable, and can confirm that that selection is greyed out when I select non-routable maps like Ibycus' Canada topo but is available for routable maps.
Mapsource has some awareness of "Here" based on what you are doing on the map. So, for instance, if you select a waypoint in the Waypoints tab and right-click, show on map, you have now changed "Here" to the vicinity of that waypoint. If you then select "Find Nearest", the map will stay on that view and your search will be refocused to "nearest to" the waypoint you have selected.
If you select a track file on the Tracks tab and right-click, show on map, you will also change "Here" to the vicinity of the track.
I haven't checked but if you don't have any waypoints or track files, if you scroll the map to the vicinity of where you want to search and then create a waypoint it may cause Mapsource to refocus. Then you can delete the waypoint when you're done the search.
I hope that helps a little.
I'm not sure where you can get routable maps not from Garmin. Most of the free maps do not contain the necessary databases for searching. That's a lot of work to add those. I think Dale is working on a searchable version of the Canadian Ibycus topo map for sometime in the future because there are sources for the necessary data online for free. I'm not sure if the necessary data exists, or is easily acquired, for the American Ibycus maps.
...ken...
You are correct. I have lots of maps in Mapsource, both routable and non-routable, and can confirm that that selection is greyed out when I select non-routable maps like Ibycus' Canada topo but is available for routable maps.
Mapsource has some awareness of "Here" based on what you are doing on the map. So, for instance, if you select a waypoint in the Waypoints tab and right-click, show on map, you have now changed "Here" to the vicinity of that waypoint. If you then select "Find Nearest", the map will stay on that view and your search will be refocused to "nearest to" the waypoint you have selected.
If you select a track file on the Tracks tab and right-click, show on map, you will also change "Here" to the vicinity of the track.
I haven't checked but if you don't have any waypoints or track files, if you scroll the map to the vicinity of where you want to search and then create a waypoint it may cause Mapsource to refocus. Then you can delete the waypoint when you're done the search.
I hope that helps a little.
I'm not sure where you can get routable maps not from Garmin. Most of the free maps do not contain the necessary databases for searching. That's a lot of work to add those. I think Dale is working on a searchable version of the Canadian Ibycus topo map for sometime in the future because there are sources for the necessary data online for free. I'm not sure if the necessary data exists, or is easily acquired, for the American Ibycus maps.
...ken...
Thanks Ken in Regina and everyone else.
Yes, creating a waypoint does re-focus MapSource to that new vicinity.
I guess I'm tilting at windmills, but I think the creators of MapSource have gone in a surprising and less than useful direction with the whole "Places" thing. Whether one wishes to Find or Find Nearby, having them available in the data is certainly a good idea. And I guess it is also reasonable for all Places (all regardless of category) to be visible when one zooms in close, as seems to be the case.
But their presence is sometimes distracting to me. In some geographic locations, there are LOTS of Places. Being able to make them invisible only by reducing the detail level of the map seems a poor choice.
I'd rather a toggle somewhere. In the Find sub-menu, default is All Points of Interest. Seems it would be quite simple to add a -None- to the dropdown.
Alternatively, in the Details settings, the programmers could perhaps add a No Places setting.
Ah well, wishing and hoping.........
Thanks all, once again, for the learning experience.
Yes, creating a waypoint does re-focus MapSource to that new vicinity.
I guess I'm tilting at windmills, but I think the creators of MapSource have gone in a surprising and less than useful direction with the whole "Places" thing. Whether one wishes to Find or Find Nearby, having them available in the data is certainly a good idea. And I guess it is also reasonable for all Places (all regardless of category) to be visible when one zooms in close, as seems to be the case.
But their presence is sometimes distracting to me. In some geographic locations, there are LOTS of Places. Being able to make them invisible only by reducing the detail level of the map seems a poor choice.
I'd rather a toggle somewhere. In the Find sub-menu, default is All Points of Interest. Seems it would be quite simple to add a -None- to the dropdown.
Alternatively, in the Details settings, the programmers could perhaps add a No Places setting.
Ah well, wishing and hoping.........
Thanks all, once again, for the learning experience.
Maybe it is time you looked at a more modern product. Garmin Mobile PC has just such a setting.
Terry
Terry
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
Maybe it is time you looked at a more modern product. Garmin Mobile PC has just such a setting.
Terry
Terry
Is Mobile PC a workable substitute for communicating with my Garmin Oregon 400c?
If so, where can I get it? It did not seem to show up when I logged in to Garmin and looked in areas such as "accessories" or wherever else I poked around.
MapSource is designed to allow you to set up routes and waypoints for your Oregon. Mobile PC is a stand alone program that (with a GPS) can perform navigation functions on a laptop. It is not free and is not likely to work with your Oregon without some modification. There is a whole section of this site devoted to Mobile PC. Time for you to do some reading.
Terry
Terry