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GlobalSat USB BU353 doesn't work with my National Geographic
Jammerjonn
Hi I'm new to this web site and GPS. I bought National Geographics State verison 4 and the GlobalSat Bu353. I was told they would work together but per NatGeo they won't. Since I bought the GlobalSat Bu353 through Ebay, I'm stuck. I was told there are free programs to download and will make the adjustment to make it all work together. I tried Xport but it doesn't open after downloading. Any suggestions? Thanks for your time.
tcassidy
I don't think National Geographic products are GPS aware. The ad copy says you can transfer tracks, etc from your GPS but does not say it works live with a GPS. I don't think your problem is with the BU-353 but the software as it is not for navigation.

Terry
Jammerjonn
Ok. I was told I could find my gps location using the natgeo program abd a gps unit. They do show listings for gps units that will work for their states 4.0 software but globalstat isn't compatible. I'm hoping to make my unit compatible rather than buy a whole another unit spending more money.
National Geographic Maps | GPS Compatibility Chart
Jammerjonn
I tried this free program XPORT138: XPort
Marvin Hlavac
Jammerjonn, welcome to the forums. Read post #3 in the following thread: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/2137-warning-national-geographic-topo#post15825
tcassidy
I don't think compatibility is the issue. I think the GPS units they list are self contained (they have a built in map display) and can output tracks and waypoints to use with NG.

Terry
Jammerjonn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Jammerjonn, welcome to the forums. Read post #3 in the following thread: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/2137-warning-national-geographic-topo#post15825

Hi thanks for the info. So I should buy the express version of this software?
Marvin Hlavac
Before buying I would first download the 14-day trial version to make sure it works for you. If it does, then you may buy the Express version (of the "standard" version, which ever you want).
Ken in Regina
Terry (tcassidy) is correct. ALL of the GPS models listed are standalone GPS navigation devices, either handheld or for use in automobiles. They ALL have their own builtin GPS features and functions.

The only interaction between the GPS devices listed and National Geographic's Topo is to transfer the data from a trip AFTER it was taken so you can see it on the topo maps. Many of those devices listed do not output the realtime satellite data that is needed for GPS navigation. They will only allow you to upload track and route data that is already captured. (Some models will also allow you to download the topo maps into them.)

It does not appear that National Geographic's Topo has any realtime navigation capabilities at all.

You can go ahead and try using something like GPSGate or Xport but please don't expect anything to work if the software is not designed to work with realtime satellite data.

...ken...
tcassidy
That is certainly what I read in the advertising for this product. Nowhere does it state it will work live with any GPS. I think the other linked thread comment is misleading.

However Jammerjonn, please let us know how you make out with the trial version of GPS Gate. We are all willing to learn from the experience of others.

Terry
Jammerjonn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Before buying I would first download the 14-day trial version to make sure it works for you. If it does, then you may buy the Express version (of the "standard" version, which ever you want).

Ok thanks will it tell me how to use the program so natgeo will find my gps unit?
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammerjonn
Ok thanks will it tell me how to use the program so natgeo will find my gps unit?
No, it won't. You need to know what natgeo is looking for when it tries to find the GPS unit. That's if it tries to find the GPS unit at all. I'm not convinced it will look for a GPS to get realtime satellite data from because I don't believe it has any navigation features at all.

I don't have it so I could be wrong, but I saw nothing on the web site that would indicate it has any realtime nav functions. Everything I saw on the web site points to the fact that it only will transfer waypoints, tracks and routes from a GPS navigation device. It can't get that data from your BU353 because it's not a navigation device and does not have the functions to save and store that stuff. It's simply a GPS receiver that passes realtime satellite data to a nav program so it can navigate and save and store that stuff.

Before you waste a lot more time you should probably contact National Geographic support and confirm whether Topo has any realtime nav functions or not. If it does, there should be a menu item somewhere for you to tell it where (what COM port, etc) to look for the realtime satellite data feed. Every nav program has a configuration capability somewhere in it that lets you do that. Each one is different.

GPSGate is flexible. It will automatically assign COM ports for the navigation program(s) to use. Then you can configure the nav program to use one of those COM ports. Or if the nav program insists on a particular COM port you can configure GPSGate to make that COM port available. But it will not tell you how to configure your nav program because each one is very different.

...ken...
Jammerjonn
Thanks I'll do that. As you can see I'm new to GPS and it was suggested I use these two products together. Thanks again very much.
Ken in Regina
Hey Jammerjohn,

That's what we're here for. Part of the problem is helping folks sort through the terminology. I learned something very important a long time ago:

Quote:
The answer you get depends on the question you ask.
If you don't ask the right question you won't get a useful answer. That's where understanding the basic terminology and concepts helps. You won't always be able to get direct yes/no answers here. Hopefully the forum can help you discover the right questions to ask and where to get the answers from. (And then you can share them with the forum when you get them, to add to the knowledge here.)

Ultimately, I hope the forum can help you find something that works for what you want to do. By the way, you haven't shared with us what you eventually hope to accomplish with your GPS technology.

...ken...
Jammerjonn
Soory. I'm with a search and rescue unit and we are getting lost people that call in to our sheriffs office looking for help. They either give us there gps location (if they have a unit in their vehicle) or we get it from the cell phone companies that "ping their phone" so I wanted a way to enter their gps data into the natgeo map to get a close fix on their location.
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