For Microsoft Streets and Trips 2008:
I have downloaded XPort and its sister program, Compass, and have them functioning well. I would like to run and view S&T and Compass at the same time. With XP, I have two options for doing this; tiling or opening both programs and resizing. With either method, Streets and Trips will consume the entire monitor display (covering the compass display) when the full screen navigation mode function (F11) is selected. And, I have not found a way to resize the page when in this function. So, I think I need a screen splitter that will allow full functioning within a frame while limiting functions to confine them within the frame box.
I sent an e-mail to WinSplit-Revolution.com (Free Splitter) to ask if their program operates in the way in which I have need. Does anyone else have suggestions or ideas?
I have downloaded XPort and its sister program, Compass, and have them functioning well. I would like to run and view S&T and Compass at the same time. With XP, I have two options for doing this; tiling or opening both programs and resizing. With either method, Streets and Trips will consume the entire monitor display (covering the compass display) when the full screen navigation mode function (F11) is selected. And, I have not found a way to resize the page when in this function. So, I think I need a screen splitter that will allow full functioning within a frame while limiting functions to confine them within the frame box.
I sent an e-mail to WinSplit-Revolution.com (Free Splitter) to ask if their program operates in the way in which I have need. Does anyone else have suggestions or ideas?
How large is the Compass? If it is just a small window, perhaps you could use some utility software to set the window to be always-on-top.
The Compass, itself, has an "Always on Top" feature. However, when it is selected, the S&T full screen nav function will not launch.
The Compass is very versatile and can be configured to any size you like. So, your suggestion is an option. Ultimately, I would like to configure the Compass to be a very narrow band running across the bottom of the width of the full monitor with S&T running in full screen mode above it.
The Compass is very versatile and can be configured to any size you like. So, your suggestion is an option. Ultimately, I would like to configure the Compass to be a very narrow band running across the bottom of the width of the full monitor with S&T running in full screen mode above it.
click the Compass icon in the notification bar and select 'Always on Top'
Terry
Terry
Having Compass set to "always on top" keeps the S&T full page navigation feature from launching.
t1dunn said:
just look at tcassidy previous post, we can see a picture of it in full screen navigation with the compass on top of it?
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Having Compass set to "always on top" keeps the S&T full page navigation feature from launching
I'll try it with 2010 when I get a moment.
Terry
Terry
Thank you to everyone for continuing to work on this with me.
The LCD went out on my laptop and I am waiting for the new inverter to arrive... hopefully tomorrow. I can do some more testing, then. Will also be adding an in-car mount to my '96 Accord in preparation for a trip to the mountians in a couple of weeks... I look forward to making use of all my new upgrades and gizmos.
Terry's thumbnail looks like it might not be S&T 2008... Maybe that's the difference in being able to open Compass on top...
Tom
The LCD went out on my laptop and I am waiting for the new inverter to arrive... hopefully tomorrow. I can do some more testing, then. Will also be adding an in-car mount to my '96 Accord in preparation for a trip to the mountians in a couple of weeks... I look forward to making use of all my new upgrades and gizmos.
Terry's thumbnail looks like it might not be S&T 2008... Maybe that's the difference in being able to open Compass on top...
Tom
Fortunately for you, I have S&T 2008 on the laptop. I don't use it as the data for my area is useless. I guess I just forgot to remove it.
Terry
Terry
Thanks, Terry, for the test... Don't know why mine doesn't want to do this... I will tinker with it a bit more...
Did you know that the backgrounds and data display for Compass are highly configurable? I will be having it run on a 3/4" strip at the bottom of the screen...
Did you know that the backgrounds and data display for Compass are highly configurable? I will be having it run on a 3/4" strip at the bottom of the screen...
t1dunn, if the Streets & Trips's keyboard shortcuts don't work, it could be that the Streets & Trips window in not in focus (Compass is). Just click S&T to bring its window to focus, and hopefully the keyboard shortcuts (F11, etc) will start working.
I did not try the shortcut keys so that could be the reason.
Compass is a nice use of the wasted space at the bottom of S&T. However, I don't like running helper programs like xport or GPS Gate if I don't have to. Just more things to remember to set up.
Terry
Compass is a nice use of the wasted space at the bottom of S&T. However, I don't like running helper programs like xport or GPS Gate if I don't have to. Just more things to remember to set up.
Terry
Terry, the bottom area displays the street name of the next turn most pof the time, so that may not be suitable place for Compass. Much better placement for it would be as shown in your very first screen shot (top left corner of S&T).
(I agree with you about unnecessary applications, but GpsGate needs to be set up only once, and then you can just forget about it ).
(I agree with you about unnecessary applications, but GpsGate needs to be set up only once, and then you can just forget about it ).
If I recall correctly from testing last year, GPS Gate will not survive a sleep cycle. I try not to run GPS hardware (eg 20x) or software that must be set up each time the computer resumes. Generally this is not an issue but when using the UMPC last year, the sleep cycle was a necessity and I rejected anything that couldn't easily support it.
Terry
Terry
When my laptop is repaired, I will try the focus trick... The inverter did arrive, today; however, it appears to be the wrong part... I am presently working through those issues...
I was able to get the LCD back up and I worked with the layering issues.
I discovered that I was able to get Compass to be on top with S&T in full page nav mode. The problem was that I did not have the GPS running a route, i.e. operator error... ummm... duhhh... My apologies.
This is a good suggestion for accomplishing my purposes. Thank you. However, I sure would like to be able to do it in split-screen. With this technique, you end up covering up either the writtten directions at the bottom or the top drop-down bar.
I also built the narrow band display for Compass. It looks pretty good. If someone would tell me how to capture the screen shot, I would be glad to post it here.
One minor problem I discovered is that the assigned data display area in Compass seems to be wider than the background color. This creates an extra band of grey below the background band color. Does anybody know how to contact the author of Compass? I didn't see any contact info at the website.
After I get the final kinks worked out, I would be glad to provide copies of the background by e-mail to those having interest. That would save them a bit of effort.
I discovered that I was able to get Compass to be on top with S&T in full page nav mode. The problem was that I did not have the GPS running a route, i.e. operator error... ummm... duhhh... My apologies.
This is a good suggestion for accomplishing my purposes. Thank you. However, I sure would like to be able to do it in split-screen. With this technique, you end up covering up either the writtten directions at the bottom or the top drop-down bar.
I also built the narrow band display for Compass. It looks pretty good. If someone would tell me how to capture the screen shot, I would be glad to post it here.
One minor problem I discovered is that the assigned data display area in Compass seems to be wider than the background color. This creates an extra band of grey below the background band color. Does anybody know how to contact the author of Compass? I didn't see any contact info at the website.
After I get the final kinks worked out, I would be glad to provide copies of the background by e-mail to those having interest. That would save them a bit of effort.
Okay, here is my first attempt at uploading a screen shot... This is the look I am going for in a split-screen mode...
You need a different colour for the alphanumerics. They look blurry.
Terry
Terry
Hi, Terry,
Thanks for your suggestion about the text color... The text is very visible on my laptop... And, the background color and text color are intentional... They are shades of red... Red does not cause temporary "blindness" at night.
Thanks for your suggestion about the text color... The text is very visible on my laptop... And, the background color and text color are intentional... They are shades of red... Red does not cause temporary "blindness" at night.
Good point! I was wondering if that was your reason for using the same colours.
Terry
Terry
Thanks for that tip about red. I didn't know that.
...ken...
...ken...
Re: Red at night, tis true... Ever notice "running red" at night in action movies? Think of the pilot house of naval ships in night scenes... Nicer table lamps for navigation tables have an extra switchable red lense.
I did download WinSplit-Revolution(.com) to test if their screen splitter would contain S&T within the box frame when switched to full screen mode. It will not. Still scratching my head.
I did download WinSplit-Revolution(.com) to test if their screen splitter would contain S&T within the box frame when switched to full screen mode. It will not. Still scratching my head.
If you feel adventuresome, you might check in the registry. I see a WindowPos setting under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Automap\15.0. The last digits are the window size so maybe changing the height would fool S&T 2008 into not using the whole screen. I didn't try it though so your on your own.
Terry
Terry
Excellent suggestion; thank you! I will put in the mix of considerations.
Field Test of Compass
I used the Compass program, today, on an extended trip. I had it set to "Always on Top" and stationed at the bottom of the Full Screen Navigation page. I enjoyed having the Compass data visible, however, I did not like giving up the data at the bottom of the guidance section: trip bar, distance to turn, etc... The Compass did not cover any of the written directions.
In conclusion, I found the informtion in the lower section of the Nav screen to be more useful and important than the Compass data. I eventually just turned the Compass off... I will continue to search for a screen splitter and test other configurations.
I used the Compass program, today, on an extended trip. I had it set to "Always on Top" and stationed at the bottom of the Full Screen Navigation page. I enjoyed having the Compass data visible, however, I did not like giving up the data at the bottom of the guidance section: trip bar, distance to turn, etc... The Compass did not cover any of the written directions.
In conclusion, I found the informtion in the lower section of the Nav screen to be more useful and important than the Compass data. I eventually just turned the Compass off... I will continue to search for a screen splitter and test other configurations.
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