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Review: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009
tcassidy
S&T 2004 shows GDT as the Canadian data supplier.

Terry
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Marvin Hlavac
jsnoik, yes, good suggestion with map feedback via Navteq website! I've sent my feedback in the past, still via their old website. It was a positive experience.

Terry, so no DMTI but rather GDT Canada! GDT got purchased by Tele Atlas shortly after that.

Tele Atlas is one of the data providers for Streets & Trips (judging by the credits), but it doesn't necessarily mean all the data Tele Atlas has Microsoft uses in the product.
Abalester
Thank you for the site welcome. I am here to learn about GPS Streets and Trips. I have Vista64 on my laptop, and have not purchased Streets and Trips yet, because I don't know if MSFT supports 64 bit GPS hardware.

I searched for an hour on the MSFT web site, and found nothing posted regarding the subjet. Naturally I do not want to purchase the program unless I can run it.

I used to run Delorme's GPS, and may do so again, if it is supported. At present, I am still looking for a solution..
flannigan
Abalaster:

I have Windows Ultimate, 64 bit and have no problems.

Regards,

Mike Flannigan
taoyue
Abalester, there are two issues here: software and hardware. Streets & Trips (software) works just fine on 64-bit Vista, as listed in the System Requirements. Note that SP1 is required for 64-bit but not for 32-bit, so make sure you're up to date.

Whether your GPS device (hardware) will work is unrelated to S&T, and depends on whether the hardware manufacturer has put out a driver. The Pharos GPS puck that Microsoft bundles with S&T works fine on 64-bit Vista. If you've got another GPS puck, plug it in and see what happens. If it's a mainstream device, odds are that it will simply plug-and-play.
jsnoik
Abalester,
On the first page of this thread, in the first post, there is a link to download a 60 trial version. Give that a whirl. That will give you the ultimate answer. Of course, if you have any problems, post them. It may be a simple fix that someone can guide you through.

I don't believe that there is a version for sale, yet. I think everyone here is running the demo.

And, of course, follow the directions above of those who are more familiar with Vista.
Abalester
Marvin, I do not currently own a GPS device, and would be interested in the 2009 download, but do not want to buy an earlier version (2008) that will be obsolete in a couple of months just to get the hardware. I will be using 64 bit Vista, and also need to know if there will be a 64 bit driver problem with S&Ts GPS. Thanks in advance for your reply.
kcflyer
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Originally Posted by taoyue
In future versions, I hope there will be some tweaking of text-to-speech so that common highway abbreviations are not mispronounced. SR-27 is currently spoken as "Senior twenty-seven", and US-1 as "Us One." It's not that hard to fix this -- just do some preprocessing of the text with regular expressions before sending it to the TTS engine.
Microsoft has some tools to create a 'User Lexicon' file to properly read words that might not be interpreted correctly. It's not a trivial task.

You need to break the word down into pronounceable phonemes. For example, I live on Kenneth Lane. S&T says "Kenneth L N". If I create a lexicon entry equating 'LN' to the phonemes 'l ey n', it says "lane".

Unfortunately, I tried to fix SR (state route), but could not override S&T saying "senior". Not sure why, but I suspect there is already a lexicon entry somewhere that overrides the user lexicon.

If you're interested in working on this some more, go to Microsoft.com and search for BuildAppLex.msi.
Marvin Hlavac
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abalester
Marvin, I do not currently own a GPS device, and would be interested in the 2009 download, but do not want to buy an earlier version (2008) that will be obsolete in a couple of months just to get the hardware. I will be using 64 bit Vista, and also need to know if there will be a 64 bit driver problem with S&Ts GPS. Thanks in advance for your reply...abalester@verizon.net
Yes, I wouldn't suggest buying an older version of Streets & Trips now that version 2009 is available as a download. And I wouldn't want to wait till S&T 2009 w/GPS Locator appears in stores later in September 2008. You can buy a USB GPS receiver separately. BU-353 by Globalsat has been quite popular (I use it myself these days, too). BU-353 has drivers for Vista 64.

There are likely other USB GPS receivers that would work perfectly well with Streets & Trips and 64-bit Windows Vista. Perhaps other people will tell us what they use.
cooknkpl
I still use the little GPS "dongle" that I bought with my 2007 pkg. Are their "upgraded" versions?, or newer/better ones since then? I always like to stay at the cutting edge of technology!
tcassidy
It was mentioned earlier that S&T 2009 has a new dongle included if you buy the version with a GPS sensor. The Pharos 500 included with 2007 and 2008 is eminently suitable for the purpose it is used for but hardly "cutting edge".

Terry
cooknkpl
So...it's newer technology/better/worth the few bucks extra?
I am a tour manager in the music industry & this application seems to best very popular among the bus drivers - so I want to be sure I have the best I can get?
cooknkpl
Hmmm...just downloaded & started to install and got the messg, "some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation"...GRRRR!
cooknkpl
Install error messg...

CRC failed in Streets\MSMap\PFiles\MSMap\Data\USA_CD.mad
Unexpected end of archive
Gladwin
Quote:
Originally Posted by cooknkpl
got the messg, "some installation files are corrupt. Please download a fresh copy and retry the installation"
Please check the file size of your download. If it is less than 1.14 GB (1,230,376,744 bytes), then you may want to download it again and try.
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