Plan a Route Without "Bogus Stops" in Microsoft Streets and Trips
Everyone knows that you can alter a route by "dragging" a segment of the route to another road. Although this is nothing more than a waypoint, the problem is that this creates a Stop which you may not want to appear in your directions as a Stop. Also, Streets & Trips assigns a name to that Stop (like "Near Oshkosh") that, at best, might not be helpful and, at worst, might be distracting. I suggest the following.
Go ahead and drag the segment as above. Re-calculate the route and then look at your newly-created Stop. It probably is between two legitimate driving instructions, in effect bisecting a logical segment. Now, zoom in a bit and drag that stop to one end or the other of that segment, assuring in the Driving Directions that it has now merged with the instruction that was already there. The segment should be no longer segmented. You will have eliminated the new, or "Bogus" Stop.
You can eliminate the name using the Rename capability of Microsoft Streets and Trips 2010 by just putting a single space in the name field. Note that if you actually delete the name without putting something else in the name field, you will get "Unnamed" in the route planner and Driving Directions which is arguably worse than what was there before.
Now, you will get reasonably clean Driving Directions that you can print and publish, if you like.
See the attached route file for an illustration of what I am trying to say.
Everyone knows that you can alter a route by "dragging" a segment of the route to another road. Although this is nothing more than a waypoint, the problem is that this creates a Stop which you may not want to appear in your directions as a Stop. Also, Streets & Trips assigns a name to that Stop (like "Near Oshkosh") that, at best, might not be helpful and, at worst, might be distracting. I suggest the following.
Go ahead and drag the segment as above. Re-calculate the route and then look at your newly-created Stop. It probably is between two legitimate driving instructions, in effect bisecting a logical segment. Now, zoom in a bit and drag that stop to one end or the other of that segment, assuring in the Driving Directions that it has now merged with the instruction that was already there. The segment should be no longer segmented. You will have eliminated the new, or "Bogus" Stop.
You can eliminate the name using the Rename capability of Microsoft Streets and Trips 2010 by just putting a single space in the name field. Note that if you actually delete the name without putting something else in the name field, you will get "Unnamed" in the route planner and Driving Directions which is arguably worse than what was there before.
Now, you will get reasonably clean Driving Directions that you can print and publish, if you like.
See the attached route file for an illustration of what I am trying to say.
SpadesFlush, that's a good idea! Added to Tips & Tricks for Streets & Trips.
Thanks!!!
Thanks!!!
This is awesome!
I must be doing something wrong. In Streets & Trips 2010, when I try to drag the Stop to either end of the trip, it won't let me drag it outside of the map on screen (turns to a NO symbol - a circle with a diagonal line through it).
If I zoom out enough to show both the stop and the start or end, when I try to drop it, it deletes the stop and reroutes me as if the stop had never been on the trip.
What am I doing wrong?
If I zoom out enough to show both the stop and the start or end, when I try to drop it, it deletes the stop and reroutes me as if the stop had never been on the trip.
What am I doing wrong?
Not to either end of the TRIP but to the end (or start) of the segment, or leg, within the trip where the 'bogus stop' is inserted. By that I mean the section of the trip between route direction changes (turns, etc.).
So, for instance in the attached route file, if dragging the route to the preferred road placed stops where I have placed yellow pushpins, you could drag that stop to the next turning point that then become stops 3 and 4 of this route.
So, for instance in the attached route file, if dragging the route to the preferred road placed stops where I have placed yellow pushpins, you could drag that stop to the next turning point that then become stops 3 and 4 of this route.
Sorry, but I am apparently too dense to get it. I tried using your sample trip, and it just changes the routing whenever I drag one of the stops any place.
I know I'm doing something wrong, but I have no clue what.
I know I'm doing something wrong, but I have no clue what.
Yes, if you drag a stop away from the route that has been calculated, it will change the route as you say. Try just dragging the stop a little way along the route.
Alternatively, you can create new stops and place them where a turn is indicated and just delete the unwanted stop and recalculate.
Alternatively, you can create new stops and place them where a turn is indicated and just delete the unwanted stop and recalculate.
If I drag it just a short distance, it moves but does not disappear. Maybe I misunderstand the purpose of this thread, but I thought the idea was to eliminate bogus stops.
You can't eliminate them entirely; you can just make them somewhat more useful by tying them into an existing driving direction instruction. This leaves the yellow boxes on the map but at least there is no superfluous driving direction as a bogus stop.
Ah, thanks. Head will stop hurting soon.
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This is great, keeps everything nice and clean.
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Ah, thanks. Head will stop hurting soon.
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It really helps when you stop doing this and this .
Unfortunately there is enough to learn that I find the painless periods are entirely too short.
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The older I get, the more it seems 'painless' is being erased from my vocabulary.
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The older I get, the more it seems 'painless' is being erased from my vocabulary.
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The older we get, the more we learn. What can I learn today? :rofl"
People who know me have heard me say:
If you want to learn something, make a mistake. To learn something really well, make an expensive mistake.
If you want to learn something, make a mistake. To learn something really well, make an expensive mistake.
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Originally Posted by Brian Conner
People who know me have heard me say:
If you want to learn something, make a mistake. To learn something really well, make an expensive mistake.
If you want to learn something, make a mistake. To learn something really well, make an expensive mistake.
One option I've found helpful is to use a mile marker on a road as a "stop" This lets you chose a route, can be used to force a route, and doesn't make with the "near edge of world" or "middle of the void" 'stops'.
It is also really useful when you know that the first 300 miles are "follow interstate south" then turn on exit 65 and go 2 miles on local roads. I can "shorten" the trip to the segment "Exit 65b - Pat's Pancake Palace" and thus see the local roads, and not have them hidden under a desination tag.
It is also really useful when you know that the first 300 miles are "follow interstate south" then turn on exit 65 and go 2 miles on local roads. I can "shorten" the trip to the segment "Exit 65b - Pat's Pancake Palace" and thus see the local roads, and not have them hidden under a desination tag.
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