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Streets & Trips 2010 exports only waypoints/favorites instead of route
zrxh14
I downloaded the trial version and then thought I was sending a route to my Garmin 465T but it only sent the waypoints/favorites. I was sending via the USB cable and yes, I did select the second option of sending the route. So, looks like I will continue to use GPSBabel since it works correctly and sends the route. Ideas?
Marvin Hlavac
Thanks for posting it, zrxh14. I copied this post also to the Wish List section, as I believe very many users are excited about the new export capability of the new Streets & Trips 2010, and likely many people will wish for further improvements in this area.

Here's your post in the Wish List forum: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/2582-export-route-not-just-stops
zrxh14
So the supposed function is basically useless especially since you have to be connected to the internet anyway. With GPSBabel you save your route, convert it to *.gpx in GPSBAbel and then drag it to the GPX folder in your Garmin. Much ado about nothing as far as the S&T function.
Marvin Hlavac
You don't necessarily need to be connected to the Internet. Read the following discussion: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/2412-why-does-streets-trips-2010-need-internet-connection-send-waypoints-pnd
Ken in Regina
As Marvin said, you don't need to be connected to the internet to save a GPX file. You only need the connection if you want to transfer directly to your PND.

As for the usefulness of S&T's GPX export, it's still very handy for lots of things. It's just not perfect for that one purpose. It saves you having to manually enter the start, stops and end points on the route into your PND. It's a minor thing to tell the PND to recalculate a route.

The real issue is that the Garmin routing calculations are not identical to Microsoft's so in some circumstances you may not get the exact route. Sometimes that's no big deal and other times it's a really big deal, especially if you've taken a lot of trouble to get a route just so in Streets before transferring it.

There are shortcomings when they save track information to GPX, too. But it's still a decent start. Let's just all agree to put some pressure on them to get closer to the full standard for transfering routes and tracks in the next release.

...ken...
zrxh14
We are fulltime RV'ers and only use routes when we go on day trips to do tourist things. When we move our RV from one location to another we just use waypoints/favorites since we want the quickest way. It's just aggravating that Microsoft says they have something and then it turns out it doesn't work. What's new, huh? S&T is still the best map program. Delorme Street Atlas is a pain in the butt to use and not user friendly at all. I have had several versions of it and it does not compare to S&T.
zrxh14
After further discovery you can just send the route straight to the Garmin with the USB cable and the Export to GPX function. Even simpler than the Send Route to GPS since you don't have to be connected to the Internet.
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by zrxh14
After further discovery you can just send the route straight to the Garmin with the USB cable and the Export to GPX function. Even simpler than the Send Route to GPS since you don't have to be connected to the Internet.
Does this mean that your Wishlist item referring to this issue is no longer requested?
zrxh14
Yes, the Export to GPX is simpler than the supposed Send to GPS and it really works.
MisterMoonlight
zrxh14:
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Yes, the Export to GPX is simpler than the supposed Send to GPS and it really works.
Sorry to comeback with SpadesFlush question, but does this mean that you can export the route also using the "export to gpx" function (and you don't have to recalculate the route in your portable gps) and not just waypoints?
tcassidy
The route must be calculated by the device you are sending the gpx file to. However, the information sent from S&T is in route form so the device can calculate the route without any user intervention. It is not just a bunch of waypoints where you would have to identify each one and enter it into a list so it could be made a route.

Terry
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by MisterMoonlight
Sorry to comeback with SpadesFlush question, but does this mean that you can export the route also using the "export to gpx" function (and you don't have to recalculate the route in your portable gps) and not just waypoints?
I've already documented it in detail in a couple of other threads. Streets never exports a full route. As Terry said, if you ask it to export a route it will export the Start, Stops and End points as route points <rtept> instead of waypoints <waypt>. So the receiving device will understand that it's a route and store it as a route so you don't have to recreate it.

However, since Streets does not export all the details of the route data (all the data for each turn location, etc.) you still need to recalculate the route on the receiving device. So there is a chance you may not get the identical route that Streets calculated. For most purposes this won't be an issue but it's worth being aware.

...ken...
MisterMoonlight
Ken:

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So there is a chance you may not get the identical route that Streets calculated. For most purposes this won't be an issue but it's worth being aware.
For a trucker that must not go onto a specific bridge or so on, this could be a very important issue...
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