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Which GPS software to buy for my netbook?
edh
Hi,
I am currently using iGuidance v4 with the Pharos GPS500 on my laptop. I am getting a netbook and thinking about putting Garmin20X on it to use for locating worksites and keeping track of mileage and if possible other expenses. I would like to download travel info from the netbook to Quicken located on my desktop.
Anything out there that will do this? Is there a better product that is simple to learn and use?
I have tried ordering from Amazon dot com but keep getting a message that says they can't ship to my Calgary address.
Recommendations about where to buy?
tcassidy
If you are in Calgary, check out GPSCentral.ca and GPSCity.ca. Both are located in your city and their prices are very competitive. Amazon is a waste of time in Canada.

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
I'm not 100% sure about it, but I think it may be a policy of Amazon.com not to ship software outside the U.S. You may order other stuff from their .com store, but not software. You would need to order from Amazon.ca, but their .ca store has a very limited selection, and you may not be able to find Garmin Mobile PC there at all.

As Terry says, if you live in Calgary, you are lucky to have some very decent stores where you can just buy it locally.
edh
GPScentral apparantly has Garmin so I'll wander over there. When I was checking for venders at Google I assumed this was the same as the other GPS City.

Thanks for the info.
I did some further checking at Amazon and I suspect that I could order Garmin through them. There was one other item I was interested in that would not ship and so that held the order. When I deleted the other item it looks like Garmin will ship but if I can pick it up for a similar price here in Calgary and save the shipping and possible duty, thats what I will do. The GPS city site suggests they do not have Garmin in stock.

Thanks again..if anyone has info about downloading info from the GPS program to Quicken, I'd sure like that info. I suspect I'll need another program to do it.
tcassidy
I use Garmin products and Quicken. However, I can't think of any information in Garmin I would want in Quicken. What is it you want to transfer?

Terry
edh
I would also like to mention that I have been pretty happy with iGuidance and was considering buying the newer version but in view of comments here in the iguidance thread, and some e-mail conversations I had with one of their CS reps, I decided to let them go their way without my business. I have had some informative e-mail conversations with Garmin which were quite positive.
edh
Hi Terry,
It would be handy if I could transfer info like milegage directly from Garmin to Quicken rather than manually copy. I'm lazy.

Ed
tcassidy
The problem with iGuidance in Canada is nobody sells it. You can buy Mobile PC almost anywhere but if you're lucky you might find version 4 of iGuidance.

Terry
tcassidy
Quote:
Originally Posted by edh
Hi Terry,
It would be handy if I could transfer info like milegage directly from Garmin to Quicken rather than manually copy. I'm lazy.

Ed
I can't quite get my head around what you are trying to do that doesn't involve copy and paste. Maybe Ken in Regina (also a Garmin and Quicken user) can help.

Terry
edh
Hi Terry,
Like I said - "Lazy". When I pull into the garage it would be handy to just go on to my home network on my netbook(to come) and transfer mileage info to my Desktop where the quicken is for pay and tax purposes. This would save me from unhooking and carrying the netbook into the house with the rest of the stuff I have, setting it up next to the desktop and manually typing in the stuff I want to put in Quicken. Then later when my boss calls with times and locations it would be handy to be able to transfer info to the netbook.
There are other considerations as well, not the least of would be to have a set up that the other guys might admire. The main thing is something to play with that I can claim as an expense.

Ed
Ken in Regina
Hi Ed,

Are you using Quicken Home & Business or Quickbooks?

You might want to download the 60-day free trial of Microsoft Mappoint if the ability to extract navigation data and use it in something else is of any significance to you. It has a strong linkage in both directions with Excel. If you can get the data you want into Excel you might be able to get it from there into Quicken.

I just don't know, beyond what you'll see in the trip computer or the direction list of a route, what data you would be able to use in Quicken that isn't just a bunch faster to simply type in manually.

If you have to manually type addresses and appointment times into something when your boss calls, just type them into the notebook when he calls.

If you use Outlook for appointments and contacts, Mobile PC will connect with it to use the addresses. So you could put the appointments and addresses into Outlook, use Outlook for the scheduling and when you need to get directions to one of the addresses you can just point Mobile PC at the contacts in Outlook. This means you would need Outlook on the netbook, of course.

It's impossible to provide anything more useful than that without some specifics about the sorts of things you need to track in Quicken. If I knew what you want to put into Quicken I might be able to make better suggestions about how to get it out of a nav program, and which nav program might be the easiest to get it out of.

...ken...
edh
Hi Ken,
Thanks for your reply. I am going to get the netbook and I'll work with it and see what I can do with it. Your suggestions will help. I have part time contract work and have to bill my boss for hours worked. I also have to keep track of my expenses and mileage and gas. I have been using my laptop and updating info on breaks. The laptop is a good one and bulky. I am concerned it will get damaged so I want something else that is smaller and less expensive that I can attach with velcro so it does not move around.
Part of my problem is that I retired two years ago from my job that required extensive detailed notetaking and learned to hate notebooks and pens.
My wife describes me as a cranky stubborn old man, very appropriate!!

Thanks
Ed
Ken in Regina
I'm also a cranky stubborn old man. And lazy. If it was me I would use my car odometer for mileage. That way I don't have to screw around with a computer and GPS.

Being lazy and cheap I would head for the nearset Staples and pick up a small notebook specifically designed to make it as simple as falling off a log to keep track of time and mileage.

If I was really opposed to pen and paper, which never has to be recharged, I would use a PDA for this sort of thing.

Using a computer for tracking time and mileage is a real pain, compared to alternatives like paper or PDA which make it almost trivially easy.

The startup time alone is a killer. Then you need to wait for some application to launch. If you're going to try to include your nav software in the mix somehow, you need to wait for the GPS to get a location fix.

And you still need to figure out some way to identify when the business portion of a trip started and when it ended.

If you really want to be totally automated find a suitable application for PDAs and get a PDA. You can get applications that are designed specifically for such tracking, for consultants, lawyers, real estate folks and other people who need to track their expenses, including time, mileage, meals, accomodations, whatever. The good ones are designed to sync with something on the computer.

If Quicken is your central tracking tool, I suggest you look at Pocket Quicken. You can get it for Palm OS and Pocket PC.

Here's a review.

Pocket Quicken Review - Pocket Quicken Personal Finance Software for Palm, Pocket PC and Windows Mobile

Or you can just run Quicken on your netbook. Make entries from your watch and odometer as appropriate. Anything you are doing now on your laptop you can do on a netbook. My netbook actually has the same speed processor, the same RAM and same hard drive space as my laptop.

...ken...
SpadesFlush
I recommend Microsoft's Streets and Trips 2010 (NOT earlier versions) for your needs.

The feature that I think would help you most is its capabability to rename route stops. When you have data that you want to record associated with any particular stop, you can easily rename the stop with whatever content you want.

For instance, you can write the address, time spent on the job, billing details, and additional expenses as you go through your day. It seems that S&T will accept quite long entries. That will produce driving directions with all of this data for your stops.

When you get back to your home garage you can copy the directions to an Excel spreadsheet on your netbook. Then, you can copy that file onto your home network and massage the information on your PC if you like and, I suppose, import that into Quicken.
SpadesFlush
Have you considered using a digital recorder such as VN-6200PC to make verbal notations as you go along and then play it back when you get home to fill in your reports?
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