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Bill the Noob!
Thanks again Marvin. I'm getting more and more nervous about this as I think about it. I've been using these maps daily since the 2004 version was installed and I've added and altered pushpins all over every one of the 20 saved maps.

SpadesFlush didn't know this; maybe you do?

But here is another question. I have all of the software for the 2004 version. I really don't, for my purposes, even need to have the maps updated with new roads etc.

So, will the old 2004 software be compatible with Win7 Pro and can I just load that and all will be well?
Marvin Hlavac
Bill, there is really very little to be nervous about. The copy/paste procedure will only take a couple of minutes. If you can install, on the same PC, both v2004 and v2011, simply open a desired file in version 2004, then open ST2011 so you have both, the 2004 and 2011, versions running. In the Legend & Overview pane of the old 2004, right click a pushpin set and select "Copy", then bring up the 2011 window, and on your keyboard press Ctrl + V to paste. It should work just fine.

I no longer have version 2004 installation discs, or it may be very time consuming to locate them at home, so neither I can answer if that version works on Windows 7. It may, but I just don't know.
Bill the Noob!
The nervousness comes not from the pushpin sets; I'm not afraid of the copy/paste on that. What makes me queasy is that I have also added literally thousands of individual pushpins to those maps and they will be lost forever.

Do you know of anyone or anyplace I might ask the question about 2004 running on MSPro7?
tcassidy
I am surprised at your reluctance to install S&T 2004 on your Win7 computer...it will either work or it won't! Regardless, I just installed it on a computer running Win7 64 Ultimate and didn't encounter any issues. I didn't try Win7 Pro but I can't think why that would make any difference.

If there is something I could test for you, let me know.

Terry
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Bill the Noob!
Hi Terry,

I'm not reluctant. I'm gathering info right now. I am entirely anal retentive and proud of it. I hate to make a move without knowing exactly the result. Since I have a small home-based business that has only two other people working at it besides myself it is important that the tools work. I spend about 80% of every day trying to find people that live near places and I use these maps for that. They are my greatest efficiency asset. Since I am throwing away all of our desktops and installing new ones it is very important to me that before I do so I know how the existing software tools are going to work with the new hardware. I don't want to be in a position where I've put a new desktop in from of everyone and it seems nice and shiny but won't let them do their work.

If you say that installing 2004 on the new machines will work then that probably is the first thing I'll try as it seems the least likely path to insure that my years of data compilation will be lost. The help and advice that SpadesFlush and Marvin have given me provides the basis for my backup plan(s).

Like I said; I'm anal retentive but I rarely have stress over having something go wrong that I hadn't at least anticipated. I have other concerns with this upgrade too and I am approaching them in the same manner. I'm throwing away (long over due I admit) some pretty old hardware (9years) and hoping to retain working software and developed applications as best as possible to avoid interruptions to my personal work schedule, that of my partner and employee, and more importantly the flow if work product to my clients. To me it seems worth it to do a bunch of investigation to this end before unplugging the old and plugging in the new.

Thanks for your help!
SpadesFlush
To be clear, I would Marvin is suggesting with the free trial download and I would do it on your OLD computer, where the old S&T 2004 is running. Installing S&T 2011 does not over-write older versions so you can have them both running in side-by-side windows. That is the easiest way to cut and paste. Save the new files created in S&T 2011.

Then, when you are all done making the conversion, download S&T 2011 to your new Win7 machine, install it, register it, and then just transfer the new S&T files to the new computer and you should be good to go.
SpadesFlush
What didn't I know?
Bill the Noob!
You just didn't know for sure if 2004 would run okay with WINPro7 because you couldn't find your discs.

Marvin didn't have them either.
tcassidy
However SpadesFlush suggested approach does not even involve installing 2004 on a Win7 machine but 2011 on your XP device. We do know this works, albeit a little slow.

Terry
Bill the Noob!
Yes, except for all those 100's, probably thousands of individual pushpins that I would lose.
tcassidy
Why would you lose them...Just copy them from one program to the other and resave the result under a new name.

Terry
Bill the Noob!
Duh! Light dawns on Marblehead! I thought that in the Legend & Overview area it only showed sets which I had imported and individually named. I didn't realize and I do now that if I put a Pushpin on the map individually it by default goes into a 'My Pushpins' set. I'm good now. I'm going to load a trial copy of 2011 and see if I can get my pins from a 2004 map to show up on a 2011 map. Hopefully I won't need 2007 in the middle.

I'll let you guys know how it works it.

It may be several days because month end is nearing and I need to abandon this for a bit. But I'll let you know.

Thanks to all of you very much!
Marvin Hlavac
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if I put a Pushpin on the map individually it by default goes into a 'My Pushpins' set.
Yes, you've got it now Bill! A single (not thousands) copy/paste will move all your pushpins within the 'My pushpins' set from one map to another.
Ken in Regina
I still don't get the nervousness. Especially for someone who is anal.

Can you spell b-a-c-k-u-p??

I am anal. I do at least two backups. Sometimes three. Then I test away.

...ken...
SpadesFlush
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A single (not thousands) copy/paste will move all your pushpins within the 'My pushpins' set from one map to another.
True only if all the pushpins are in one set. We should be clear that each pushpin set will require its own cut-and-paste operation, not that that is onerous. It takes about 5 seconds per set. We don't know how many sets Bill has to deal with.
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