I have a Garmin Nuvi 255w that I would like to pair with Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009. One of the problems is that this device uses the USB instead of a COM port. I have read that GPSGate is a solution to this problem for this GPS, but I have yet to get GPSGate to see the device. The device works fine under Windows exploring and Garmin updating, so I don't understand what the problem could be.
Could I get some pointers on setting up GPSGate with my GPS?
Could I get some pointers on setting up GPSGate with my GPS?
Turn on the Nuvi and hold your finger on the battery indicator for 10 seconds or so. When a test menu comes up, connect the USB cable and press Exit. Then see if GPS Gate can find it.
Terry
Terry
As Terry indicated, the Nuvi navigation devices to not send the GPS data out the USB port by default. They are programmed just to allow you to transfer other stuff (Favorites, routes, tracks) back and forth between the Nuvi and the PC. If you have a model that is able to act as a GPS receiver for your PC, you need to do a special ritual to tell the Nuvi to switch modes and send GPS data out the USB connection.
If Terry's sequence doesn't work, try turning around three times, spitting over your left shoulder and sacrificing two virgin hampsters while facing 237° True.
...ken...
If Terry's sequence doesn't work, try turning around three times, spitting over your left shoulder and sacrificing two virgin hampsters while facing 237° True.
...ken...
Thanks. That worked perfectly. Had a little hiccup selecting the output on GPSGate for Streets and Trips 2009, but after a quick visit to the doc, it's all corrected now.
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Thanks. That worked perfectly. ...
...ken...
Well I mixed it up a bit to make sure it stuck. I started off with Terry's method, and then I turned around and spit. Couldn't find any hamsters, though, so I had to settle for virgin DVDs.
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and sacrificing two virgin hampsters
@ FraggedLocust
Don't know if you still need help with your 255 but it I picked this up on another website and it worked perfectly with my 780 connected to my laptop:
"When you connect the Nuvi via USB normally, it is recognized by Windows as a storage device (like USB Drive). For the GPSGate recognize the Nuvi, you must connect it to the PC as a GPS and not as a PenDrive. The next steps explain how to proceed:
- Turn on the Nuvi without connecting the USB cable to the PC.
- Enter diagnostic mode by pressing the icon of the battery for about 10 seconds.
- As you enter the diagnostic screen, connect the USB cable and then exit the screen by pressing "Exit". Wait for the installation of the driver by Windows (the first time takes a while).
There, the Nuvi is connected to the GPS mode. Now let's create a virtual COM port that emulates a serial connection.
- Open GPSGate and follow the setup wizard as follows:
This is the GPSGate up and running:
The results in S&T look like this:
Don't know if you still need help with your 255 but it I picked this up on another website and it worked perfectly with my 780 connected to my laptop:
"When you connect the Nuvi via USB normally, it is recognized by Windows as a storage device (like USB Drive). For the GPSGate recognize the Nuvi, you must connect it to the PC as a GPS and not as a PenDrive. The next steps explain how to proceed:
- Turn on the Nuvi without connecting the USB cable to the PC.
- Enter diagnostic mode by pressing the icon of the battery for about 10 seconds.
- As you enter the diagnostic screen, connect the USB cable and then exit the screen by pressing "Exit". Wait for the installation of the driver by Windows (the first time takes a while).
There, the Nuvi is connected to the GPS mode. Now let's create a virtual COM port that emulates a serial connection.
- Open GPSGate and follow the setup wizard as follows:
This is the GPSGate up and running:
The results in S&T look like this:
I did all the turning around, spitting, killing spiders, throwing snowballs and using cleverly designed words before i stumbled upon this forum and my last two words are thank you.
Welcome avbuddy,
Glad you found something helpful. Happy New Year!!
...ken...
Glad you found something helpful. Happy New Year!!
...ken...
Thank you for your post, it saved me a lot of time!!!
I wish I would have found this months ago...
Peace
I wish I would have found this months ago...
Peace
t923347, in your instructions I have realized that on my Windows 7 netbook, I needed to leave the GPS in diagnostic mode for Win7 to install the driver and display that it is ready to use. Streets and Trips 2010 recognizes this as a GPS after configuring with GPSGate however, I am stuck with a "searching for sat" and an eventual error message that non enough data could be collected.
I want to confirm that when using a Garmin 1490 as a GPS receiver, you remain in diagnostic mode. I ask this because if I click exit after connecting to the PC, upon exiting the diagnostic screen, my netbook will disconnect as a GPS and reconnect upon the GPS restarting in normal PC mode (similar to a flash drive).
This is what leads me to believe that you must remain in diagnostic mode to use the GPS as a receiver for Streets and Trips. Please advise!
Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work. Nuvi 1490 appears to be completely compatible with Streets and Trips 2010.
Thanks!
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- Turn on the Nuvi without connecting the USB cable to the PC.
- Enter diagnostic mode by pressing the icon of the battery for about 10 seconds.
- As you enter the diagnostic screen, connect the USB cable and then exit the screen by pressing "Exit". Wait for the installation of the driver by Windows (the first time takes a while).
- Enter diagnostic mode by pressing the icon of the battery for about 10 seconds.
- As you enter the diagnostic screen, connect the USB cable and then exit the screen by pressing "Exit". Wait for the installation of the driver by Windows (the first time takes a while).
I want to confirm that when using a Garmin 1490 as a GPS receiver, you remain in diagnostic mode. I ask this because if I click exit after connecting to the PC, upon exiting the diagnostic screen, my netbook will disconnect as a GPS and reconnect upon the GPS restarting in normal PC mode (similar to a flash drive).
This is what leads me to believe that you must remain in diagnostic mode to use the GPS as a receiver for Streets and Trips. Please advise!
Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work. Nuvi 1490 appears to be completely compatible with Streets and Trips 2010.
Thanks!
Does the GPS Gate icon turn green?
Terry
Terry
@mjdesalvio - sorry I can't be much help to you. Those instructions were for Vista 32Bit and a Nuvi 760. I now use Windows 7 and although I still have the 760 it's 1500 miles from where I am currently living. I don't have GPSgate installed on my current Windows 7 64 Bit laptop so can't test it for you on my 1490 either.
Streets&Trips is not telling you anything useful. It sees the virtual COM port that GPSGate has set up, that's all. It will respond the same way any time you run GPSGate and connect Streets&Trips to the virtual COM port, even if there is no GPS connected to the PC.
I think if your 1490 goes into mass storage mode as soon as you exit from the diagnostic screen, it is a model that does not support being used as an external GPS receiver. This is the way my 765T behaves.
...ken...
I think if your 1490 goes into mass storage mode as soon as you exit from the diagnostic screen, it is a model that does not support being used as an external GPS receiver. This is the way my 765T behaves.
...ken...
Thanks for your responses!
@tcassidy, to my knowledge the GPS Gate icon does Not turn green and I don't believe it has before either. Because COM3 was not present in the GPS Gate list upon set up, I rearranged the list by removing and adding some different combinations. I now have COM3 in that list and select it in the GPS Gate settings. Upon completing this, I then go back to Streets and Trips GPS configuration and scan the ports for a GPS. It then detects a GPS on COM3 which I select there as well but stuck at the "searching for sats"
What would cause the GPSgate logo to remain yellow? Aside from the screenshots and set-up provided by t923347 is there anything else I need to set up?
Is there a way to determine for certain if my Nuvi 1490t is compatible with the Streets and Trips? According to a list online, it says that it is.
@Ken, thanks for your input, I'm worried that this might be the case. In that case, it may be worth it to invest in a separate GPS receiver to fill that function.
@tcassidy, to my knowledge the GPS Gate icon does Not turn green and I don't believe it has before either. Because COM3 was not present in the GPS Gate list upon set up, I rearranged the list by removing and adding some different combinations. I now have COM3 in that list and select it in the GPS Gate settings. Upon completing this, I then go back to Streets and Trips GPS configuration and scan the ports for a GPS. It then detects a GPS on COM3 which I select there as well but stuck at the "searching for sats"
What would cause the GPSgate logo to remain yellow? Aside from the screenshots and set-up provided by t923347 is there anything else I need to set up?
Is there a way to determine for certain if my Nuvi 1490t is compatible with the Streets and Trips? According to a list online, it says that it is.
@Ken, thanks for your input, I'm worried that this might be the case. In that case, it may be worth it to invest in a separate GPS receiver to fill that function.
The GPS Gate icon turns green when the signal from your GPS indicates it has locked on enough satellites for a satisfactory resolution. If the icon is yellow, it indicates a signal is present only. Try relocating your GPS to a position giving a clearer sky view.
Terry
Terry
It is always easiest to let your Nuvi do what it is designed for and leave the computer GPS information to a device that does that best. We like the GlobalSat BU-353 as it is compatible with S&T along with virually any other navigation program. It is also a well designed, well tested device.
Terry
Terry
Took my netbook and 1490 outside for clear skys, and didn't get a noticeable change right away. The signal bars on S&T usually are full green and the "Sat:_" value is usually 1 or 4, but seems to cycle constantly between those. Since I didn't notice a change in the GPSgate icon color, I am assuming that something isn't configured properly.
I found the BU-353 on ebay for $30. I am hoping that this will simply be a low cost, simple solution to plotting waypoints along a trip and easily transfer those routes from S&T onto my Nuvi later. One question, do you still need GPSgate with the BU-353?
Really disappointed that I couldn't get the Nuvi working with S&T as a receiver though. If anyone thinks of something else to try, please let me know. I love getting the most out of my gadgets.
Greatly appreciate all the help!
Happy Holidays
I found the BU-353 on ebay for $30. I am hoping that this will simply be a low cost, simple solution to plotting waypoints along a trip and easily transfer those routes from S&T onto my Nuvi later. One question, do you still need GPSgate with the BU-353?
Really disappointed that I couldn't get the Nuvi working with S&T as a receiver though. If anyone thinks of something else to try, please let me know. I love getting the most out of my gadgets.
Greatly appreciate all the help!
Happy Holidays
The BU-353 will work directly with S&T. No GPS Gate required. Why do you need S&T to plot waypoints for your Nuvi. Can't your Nuvi do that directly? Seems like a bass-ackwards way of doing things!
Terry
Terry
Well 2 reasons behind that logic, I want to plan some routes ahead of time using S&T to download to the Nuvi, but I will also be traveling more frequently by train and want to capture those routes as well.
From what I can tell the Nuvi does not have a simple way of capturing frequent waypoints along a route for that purpose alone, at least not anymore efficiently than plotting one at a time. I figured it would be a reasonable investment of time to set up the S&T with a receiver to collect that data at set intervals. It is otherwise very simple to capture those occasional waypoints with the Nuvi.
Of course the downside is if you deviate from a set route, you have to start over, or turn off the unit before you deviate.
From what I can tell the Nuvi does not have a simple way of capturing frequent waypoints along a route for that purpose alone, at least not anymore efficiently than plotting one at a time. I figured it would be a reasonable investment of time to set up the S&T with a receiver to collect that data at set intervals. It is otherwise very simple to capture those occasional waypoints with the Nuvi.
Of course the downside is if you deviate from a set route, you have to start over, or turn off the unit before you deviate.
For your train trips, if I understand what you want from your 1490 correctly, I think it will give you what your looking for fairly easily.
While you travel, if you want to create and save a particular place as a waypoint, all you need to do is tap the vehicle icon on the map screen. This will bring up the "Where Am I" screen and from there you tap "Save Location". Give the location a name and it's saved in your Favorites.
If your looking to keep logs of your traveled routes, either by vehicle or train, and view/save those so that you can view them in Streets and Trips 2010, Google maps etc., this also can be done easily on the Nuvi. From the map screen, tap the speed icon to bring up the "Speedo screen". Press the speed read out in the middle of the round speedometer for 5+ seconds and the "Diagnostics Page" will open
Now tap Diagnostic Logging and the Engineering Mode:Logging Control page will appear. Tap "Start Logging" and on the Data to Log screen, tap GPX and then Start.
You will now notice in the top center of the map screen a counter. This is the log time counter. The movement (track) you are traveling is also being written as a trip log to the LOGS folder on the Nuvi. Each time you turn the Nuvi off and back on a new log will be created.
To view your trips logs in S&T 2010, attached the 1490 to your computer. Open S&T2010 and go to the menu item Data - Import GPX File. Point to the .system/Logs/gpx folder on the Nuvi and load the GPX files into S&T. Each file will create a blue line on the S&T map representing the track you took. All gpx files loaded can be saved as a single gpx file using Data - Import to GPX file in S&T.
There is one thing you will need to do in Windows to be able to get to the .system folder. This is a hidden folder on the Nuvi so to make it visible you need to alter the Windows Folder View Options so that all hidden files and folders are visible and the "Hide Protected Operating System Files" checkbox is 'unchecked".
While you travel, if you want to create and save a particular place as a waypoint, all you need to do is tap the vehicle icon on the map screen. This will bring up the "Where Am I" screen and from there you tap "Save Location". Give the location a name and it's saved in your Favorites.
If your looking to keep logs of your traveled routes, either by vehicle or train, and view/save those so that you can view them in Streets and Trips 2010, Google maps etc., this also can be done easily on the Nuvi. From the map screen, tap the speed icon to bring up the "Speedo screen". Press the speed read out in the middle of the round speedometer for 5+ seconds and the "Diagnostics Page" will open
Now tap Diagnostic Logging and the Engineering Mode:Logging Control page will appear. Tap "Start Logging" and on the Data to Log screen, tap GPX and then Start.
You will now notice in the top center of the map screen a counter. This is the log time counter. The movement (track) you are traveling is also being written as a trip log to the LOGS folder on the Nuvi. Each time you turn the Nuvi off and back on a new log will be created.
To view your trips logs in S&T 2010, attached the 1490 to your computer. Open S&T2010 and go to the menu item Data - Import GPX File. Point to the .system/Logs/gpx folder on the Nuvi and load the GPX files into S&T. Each file will create a blue line on the S&T map representing the track you took. All gpx files loaded can be saved as a single gpx file using Data - Import to GPX file in S&T.
There is one thing you will need to do in Windows to be able to get to the .system folder. This is a hidden folder on the Nuvi so to make it visible you need to alter the Windows Folder View Options so that all hidden files and folders are visible and the "Hide Protected Operating System Files" checkbox is 'unchecked".
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Really disappointed that I couldn't get the Nuvi working with S&T as a receiver though. If anyone thinks of something else to try, please let me know. I love getting the most out of my gadgets.
Best bet is to just spend $30 or $40, and buy a USB GPS receiver designed specifically for laptop use.
That diabolical Garmin bunch have learned how to defeat GPS Gate. What will they think of next!
Terry
Terry
Did you try different data rates?
Terry
Terry
Terry, if you mean data rates in the navigation software, that was not an issue. I used iGuidance, the auto-detect found the virtual com port, and iGuidance reported seeing one satellite, but that was it, no matter how much time I gave it.
If there's a setting in the Nuvi, let me know, I will gladly try it.
If there's a setting in the Nuvi, let me know, I will gladly try it.
I meant GPS Gate, but I will have to look to see if it is adjustable in that configuration.
Terry
Terry
If it saw one satellite, the data rate is likely fine. I wonder if it is an interference issue. You would need a program like nRoute that could access it directly to test that though.
Terry
Terry
@t923347, thanks for the tip, I tried this on a short trip the other day and it worked perfectly, accessed the hidden file and imported directly into S&T. thanks!
I tried a few other things with my netbook and desktop, neither worked with the Garmin. I found a Globalstat BU353 on ebay for $35 free shipping. I should hopefully get it early next week.
Also found an ecoroute HD for my 1490 on amazon for $80 to plug into your car's OBDII connector and track your car's performance via Bluetooth on your Garmin.
I tried a few other things with my netbook and desktop, neither worked with the Garmin. I found a Globalstat BU353 on ebay for $35 free shipping. I should hopefully get it early next week.
Also found an ecoroute HD for my 1490 on amazon for $80 to plug into your car's OBDII connector and track your car's performance via Bluetooth on your Garmin.
Glad to help. I just noticed one small error in the procedures I gave you. To save your various GPX files into one file you should use " Data -EXPORT to GPX" file in S&T and not "Import to GPX file"..
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