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How to use Garmin Nuvi as a GPS receiver for MS Streets & Trips (via GpsGate)
mjdesalvio
Thanks for your responses!
@tcassidy, to my knowledge the GPS Gate icon does Not turn green and I don't believe it has before either. Because COM3 was not present in the GPS Gate list upon set up, I rearranged the list by removing and adding some different combinations. I now have COM3 in that list and select it in the GPS Gate settings. Upon completing this, I then go back to Streets and Trips GPS configuration and scan the ports for a GPS. It then detects a GPS on COM3 which I select there as well but stuck at the "searching for sats"

What would cause the GPSgate logo to remain yellow? Aside from the screenshots and set-up provided by t923347 is there anything else I need to set up?

Is there a way to determine for certain if my Nuvi 1490t is compatible with the Streets and Trips? According to a list online, it says that it is.

@Ken, thanks for your input, I'm worried that this might be the case. In that case, it may be worth it to invest in a separate GPS receiver to fill that function.
tcassidy
The GPS Gate icon turns green when the signal from your GPS indicates it has locked on enough satellites for a satisfactory resolution. If the icon is yellow, it indicates a signal is present only. Try relocating your GPS to a position giving a clearer sky view.

Terry
tcassidy
It is always easiest to let your Nuvi do what it is designed for and leave the computer GPS information to a device that does that best. We like the GlobalSat BU-353 as it is compatible with S&T along with virually any other navigation program. It is also a well designed, well tested device.

Terry
mjdesalvio
Took my netbook and 1490 outside for clear skys, and didn't get a noticeable change right away. The signal bars on S&T usually are full green and the "Sat:_" value is usually 1 or 4, but seems to cycle constantly between those. Since I didn't notice a change in the GPSgate icon color, I am assuming that something isn't configured properly.

I found the BU-353 on ebay for $30. I am hoping that this will simply be a low cost, simple solution to plotting waypoints along a trip and easily transfer those routes from S&T onto my Nuvi later. One question, do you still need GPSgate with the BU-353?

Really disappointed that I couldn't get the Nuvi working with S&T as a receiver though. If anyone thinks of something else to try, please let me know. I love getting the most out of my gadgets.

Greatly appreciate all the help!

Happy Holidays
tcassidy
The BU-353 will work directly with S&T. No GPS Gate required. Why do you need S&T to plot waypoints for your Nuvi. Can't your Nuvi do that directly? Seems like a bass-ackwards way of doing things!

Terry
mjdesalvio
Well 2 reasons behind that logic, I want to plan some routes ahead of time using S&T to download to the Nuvi, but I will also be traveling more frequently by train and want to capture those routes as well.

From what I can tell the Nuvi does not have a simple way of capturing frequent waypoints along a route for that purpose alone, at least not anymore efficiently than plotting one at a time. I figured it would be a reasonable investment of time to set up the S&T with a receiver to collect that data at set intervals. It is otherwise very simple to capture those occasional waypoints with the Nuvi.

Of course the downside is if you deviate from a set route, you have to start over, or turn off the unit before you deviate.
t923347
For your train trips, if I understand what you want from your 1490 correctly, I think it will give you what your looking for fairly easily.

While you travel, if you want to create and save a particular place as a waypoint, all you need to do is tap the vehicle icon on the map screen. This will bring up the "Where Am I" screen and from there you tap "Save Location". Give the location a name and it's saved in your Favorites.

If your looking to keep logs of your traveled routes, either by vehicle or train, and view/save those so that you can view them in Streets and Trips 2010, Google maps etc., this also can be done easily on the Nuvi. From the map screen, tap the speed icon to bring up the "Speedo screen". Press the speed read out in the middle of the round speedometer for 5+ seconds and the "Diagnostics Page" will open

Now tap Diagnostic Logging and the Engineering Mode:Logging Control page will appear. Tap "Start Logging" and on the Data to Log screen, tap GPX and then Start.

You will now notice in the top center of the map screen a counter. This is the log time counter. The movement (track) you are traveling is also being written as a trip log to the LOGS folder on the Nuvi. Each time you turn the Nuvi off and back on a new log will be created.

To view your trips logs in S&T 2010, attached the 1490 to your computer. Open S&T2010 and go to the menu item Data - Import GPX File. Point to the .system/Logs/gpx folder on the Nuvi and load the GPX files into S&T. Each file will create a blue line on the S&T map representing the track you took. All gpx files loaded can be saved as a single gpx file using Data - Import to GPX file in S&T.

There is one thing you will need to do in Windows to be able to get to the .system folder. This is a hidden folder on the Nuvi so to make it visible you need to alter the Windows Folder View Options so that all hidden files and folders are visible and the "Hide Protected Operating System Files" checkbox is 'unchecked".
Marvin Hlavac
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Really disappointed that I couldn't get the Nuvi working with S&T as a receiver though. If anyone thinks of something else to try, please let me know. I love getting the most out of my gadgets.
I just tested it with the same Nuvi you have, the 1490, and I'm getting the same result. GpsGate reports GPS signal is there, but location information is missing. The icon remains yellow, and navigation software cannot use the signal.

Best bet is to just spend $30 or $40, and buy a USB GPS receiver designed specifically for laptop use.
tcassidy
That diabolical Garmin bunch have learned how to defeat GPS Gate. What will they think of next!

Terry
tcassidy
Did you try different data rates?

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Terry, if you mean data rates in the navigation software, that was not an issue. I used iGuidance, the auto-detect found the virtual com port, and iGuidance reported seeing one satellite, but that was it, no matter how much time I gave it.

If there's a setting in the Nuvi, let me know, I will gladly try it.
tcassidy
I meant GPS Gate, but I will have to look to see if it is adjustable in that configuration.

Terry
tcassidy
If it saw one satellite, the data rate is likely fine. I wonder if it is an interference issue. You would need a program like nRoute that could access it directly to test that though.

Terry
mjdesalvio
@t923347, thanks for the tip, I tried this on a short trip the other day and it worked perfectly, accessed the hidden file and imported directly into S&T. thanks!

I tried a few other things with my netbook and desktop, neither worked with the Garmin. I found a Globalstat BU353 on ebay for $35 free shipping. I should hopefully get it early next week.
Also found an ecoroute HD for my 1490 on amazon for $80 to plug into your car's OBDII connector and track your car's performance via Bluetooth on your Garmin.
t923347
Glad to help. I just noticed one small error in the procedures I gave you. To save your various GPX files into one file you should use " Data -EXPORT to GPX" file in S&T and not "Import to GPX file".
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