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iGuidance 2009, slowly but surely!
inav
It's taking a while, but we are getting there. iGuidance 2009 Laptop & UMPC/Car PC version is currently going through stage 1 beta testing with official release ETA around 3rd or 4th week of July. New features worthy of the wait will include the following:

1. New Navteq 2008 map!!
2. Updated button colors and icons
3. New graphic engine (smoother lines & better 3D performance)
4. 3D realistic junction view (where available & provided by Navteq)
5. Traffic pattern (incl ETA & ETD calculation based on historic traffic for accuracy improvement)
6. Pedestrian mode (for street walking)
7. On-screen help for option menus
8. POI lookup by distance w/ 3 options: 5, 10, or 25 miles
9. Add'l safety features (emergency, school zone alert, etc)

We will begin accepting pre-orders on July 3, 2008 on our website via http://inavcorp-store.stores.yahoo.net/iggpsnaso.html. List price for iGuidance 2009 Laptop & UMPC/Car PC version is $99. Please also note that iGuidance 2009 Laptop & UMPC/Car PC version will now be sold separately from Pocket PC version (ETA: end of August 2008)

We will be posting add'l information and screenshots on our website as we progress. Thank you very much for your patience and stay tuned!
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Marvin Hlavac
inav, thanks for the good news about the upcoming iGuidance 2009.

* I've tried the "Traffic Pattern" feature about a year ago in one of your portable GPS units. I'm looking forward to this functionality on my laptop.

* The new and improved POI look-up seems like something that should have been in iGuidance long ago .

* I'm looking forward to seeing the new "3D realistic junction view", but in the meantime I wonder if Navteq has this data even for Canada. Soon we shell see.
Alan_
Thank You for the exciting news! I'm happy a new iGuidance 2009 with updated map and new features is coming soon.
codeye
Looking at the picture it looks like iGuidance 2009 features lane guidance. Is this true. If so I will order now.
Marvin Hlavac
Yes, it's true, but this is limited to areas where such data is available:

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3D realistic junction view (where available & provided by Navteq)
I haven't yet seen Beta 1, but I will likely have Beta 2 available soon. If iNav allows me to, I will look at all the details, and post everything here at Laptop GPS World.
Alan_
I pre-ordered iGuidance 2009. The cost for current customers $79.00 for the Upgrade DVD plus shipping costs. I picked standard shipping at a cost of $7.00
ETA week of July 28, 2008.
Mister
Über Cool
mccd7618
If you recently purchased v4 Nav. iNav will allow you to upgrade to iguidance 2009 free, you only have to pay shipping & handling charge, for me it will $13.00. I pre ordered this morning, they sent me a e-mail saying I was eligble for free upgrade. This is only for registered customers. I pasted e-mail from iNav.

Hi Jeffrey:
Will your iGuidance 2009 pre order be used as a gift or for yourself? Your v4 order dated back in May is eligble for an exchange offer to v2009 free of charge plus $13 USD to cover shipping/handling. Thus, if it's for your own use, you do not need to pay the full $79. And an email will be sent out later to all registered customers about the free exchange offer once the version is officially released. For s/h payment, you may submit the pmt either via paypal or postal mail. All of this info will be posted on our website end of next week.
codeye
I assume that this iguidance 2009 will work with my gps antenna that came with my ms streets and trips ????????
malaki86
One question from me:

Does it handle importing our own POI's? If not, I won't even bother.
Marvin Hlavac
Alan_, I'm looking forward to reading your first impressions when you receive your iGuidance 2009

Mister, yes, I agree, Über Cool

mccd7618, $0 (zero) + shipping/handling is a good price

codeye, yes, your GPS receiver will work just fine with iGuidance 2009

malaki86, that feature was not mentioned by inav in the above list, but I will double-check on it as soon as I can
sebberry
Is there a list of what cities are included in the 3D junction view?
Marvin Hlavac
Hi sebberry,

Welcome to Laptop GPS World. :welcome:

I don't have the list, I only have the following quote:

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Please note that Navteq only has about 3000 of these fwy junction views throughout N. America at this time. Therefore, customers will not see this view at each junction but only where available and provided by Navteq data.
smitty240
I would also like to add a set of personal POI's as well. Also, will the informational windows, ETA, ETE, DIST, and Speed be resizable?
malaki86
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Originally Posted by smitty240
I would also like to add a set of personal POI's as well. Also, will the informational windows, ETA, ETE, DIST, and Speed be resizable?
Resizing the info would be invaluable.
ronbo2000
Any idea how much the PPC version of iGuidance 2009 will cost?
Marvin Hlavac
ronbo2000, I have no idea. We may need to wait till it gets a bit closer to the release date to find out.
maustin155
Wow!! Living in the city the walking feature would be most helpful. One question, can favorites from an earlier version be imported into this version?
computeman
I have a question will this have the ability to create a route of multiple stops and analyze the most cost efficient route? I use this for service work and with gas being $4.25 US$ this feature would be invaluable.
Marvin Hlavac
Hello maustin155 and computeman,

Both :welcome: to Laptop GPS World.

Re: Favorites

In previous versions favorites, recent destinations, home, and itinerary were all preserved when a new version of iGuidance was installed. Simply insert the installation DVD and follow the steps.

If you wish to 'move' favorites (or recent, or home, or itinerary) to another laptop, all that needs to be done is to move a small file called favorites.dat (or recent.dat, etc)from one installation to another.

Re: Optimize stops

This feature was not present in previous versions, and inav didn't announce it in on page 1 of this thread, so my guess would be that likely we will not see such feature in iGuidance 2009.
epurb
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Originally Posted by ronbo2000
Any idea how much the PPC version will cost?
They haven't mentioned price but I did receive the following;
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We will be releasing laptop & UMPC/Car PC version end of July 2008, but pocket pc version won't be available until prob. Aug or Sept of this year (only support wm5/wm6).
More detailed release info will be posted to our website and emailed to existing customers who opted in our email list later this week.
Since I have been using iGuidance on an AXIM X30H with Windows Mobile 2003 SE, I guess that I am SOL. I am disappointed, since iGuidance has performed great for me. I am still with V3.01. I didn't upgrade to V4 because I felt it didn't offer enough improvement over V.3. It is time for fresh maps and iGuidance is by far my favorite routing software. I have been hanging on for this next release.
maustin155
It looks like the new PPC version will come on a micro SD card:


iGuidance 2009 Pocket PC version:
  • 1. ETA: Aug 2008
  • 2. Features: TBD
  • 3. Compatibility: Microsoft wm5 (pocket pc/pocket pc phone editions only), and wm6 (classic and professional editions only)
  • 4. Price: $99 (including 2GB microSD card w/ miniSD & SD adapters, upgradeable to 4GB at add’l cost).
can it be transfered to your own SD card?

Also, the Optimize stop feature would be most helpful, I used IG-3 for a recent trip to LA. I loaded some Must see POI's into the system and between the 6 stops I think I back-tracked about 4X's, with the optimizer I probably could have done it in 1/2 the time and used 1/2 the gas.
maustin155
Any word yet if IG 2009 for PPC will be locked to a card?

Thanks.
Marvin Hlavac
Sorry, I was away for a couple of days. I'll try to find out the answer.
JohnWPB
Hello, I am new to this forum, but certainly not other forums and iGuidance

I have been using iGuidance since version 2. I have reshacked the graphics, created custom theme.ini's, added coordinates back in after they removed them for some unknown reason, and a moderator on the MP3Car forums.

In correspondence with iGuidance, they informed me that the number one feature that iG should have had since the very beginning, will not be in this version. The simple ability to search for a closest POI.

This was my email to them:

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Hello,

I firmly beleive that having a better way to search for surrounding POI's is the key to iGuidance's future. In the past couple of months iGo, synergic and Garmin's PC version have been released. They lack the ability to customize the display colors and such lacking a version of your theme.ini, The iG4 TTS voice is far better and a few other items.

Currently with iGuidance however, there is NO way to simply find the closest named POI. For an example, I am trying to find a Target store close to me. You can search by distance, which returns a HUGE list to try to go through.... or by name, which is very inaccurate. For instance in iGuidance You have to go to Menu, Destination, Points of Interest, 2npd page, retail, General Merchandise (Not Department store or it will not show up, and you will have to go back 2 screens). You then have type "T" to jump to the W's. You are then finally presented with a list of Target stores. I my case there is one less than a mile from my house, and the top one in the list is 27 miles away!

In Garmin Mobile PC (Many on the MP3Car forums, GPS Passion forums and many others are calling it the iGuidance Killer and It is also half the price of iGuidance) you press "Where To" then Select "Spell Name" Type what you want.... and thats it, the list of Target stores is displayed from the closest one at the top of the list..


And their response:

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Hi John:
Thank you for your detailed and constructive feedback. Unfortunately, we won't be able to complete that feature in time for release of v4.1 (to be released this summer), but hopefully will be able to do that w/ the version after that.

Thank you.
Support Team
www.inavcorp.com
At least the new 5, 10, 25 mile will help, but will still not put them in order of the closest to your location. But it is still not the complete solution.

Also the fact that I purchased iG4 for $99 around 5 months ago, and have to shell out another $79 is a bit much for the small increase in features. I can live without the intersection view, as really it is just eye candy. When iG says the turn is in a half mile and switches to guidance mode, that is good enough for me.

I guess they also changed their minds, as they state in the reply that it is iG 4.1, which would be a minor update, and thus free.....

Personally, I am gonna wait this update out, and hope they get it together for the next release.
Marvin Hlavac

Hey JohnWPB, it's good to see you here! Yes, I very much agree with your feature suggestion. When I first read the list of new features of iGuidance 2009 posted by inav on page 1, I was under the impression the new POI lookup by distance w/ 3 options: 5, 10, or 25 miles was a substitute for the lack of the feature you've mentioned. After testing it a bit, though, it is not the case. It helps a bit, but I wish there was always the option to Enter POI name to speed up the search, instead of just having to scroll down through all the various results.

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Originally Posted by JohnWPB
I guess they also changed their minds, as they state in the reply that it is iG 4.1, which would be a minor update, and thus free.....
inav has always said the next version would be just a "minor' upgrade in the form of v.4.1. If you search the web you will see they not once mentioned version 5 - it was always users like us who started threads with titles "iGuidance 5" .

It is going to be version 4.1, and on the box it will say iGuidance 2009.
JohnFab
Great information Marvin!

Do you think it make sense to charge a 'major version' upgrade price (as was the case from 3 to 4) for a 'minor version' upgrade?

Has anybody been able to confirm if the PPC version will be able to be transferred to a different SD card? (I hate the concept of giving up or frequently having to switch out my 8GB card)
Marvin Hlavac
Hi JohnFab,

:welcome: to Laptop GPS World.

For the users of the PPC version:

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Unfortunately, usage of the license will be tied to the specific SD card we ship.

Standard size is 2GB, and we will offer 4GB upgrade option as well. We are still considering 8GB and/or 16GB depending on user demand.

We have thought about allowing customers to ship their existing card to us, so we may install the license on the card for them and then ship back. But this method will require add'l admin overhead, shipping cost both ways, customer privacy issue (info on their card), virus, shipping damage, etc., so we pretty much ruled that out. We just haven't been able to find any software company that does copyright protection for PPC's. And since it's not cost effective for us to write the copyright protection software ourselves, we end up having to resort to the same SD DRM technology that other vendors are using to reduce illegal copy. I really hate this. Because this type of copyright protection measure is always result of others but end up inconveniencing the good and paying customers....
And a little bit of additional info:

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customers will be able to edit/copy their other files to/from the card. It's only iGuidance program that will be tied to the specific SD card.
As upsetting as this may be for some long time iGuidance users, I think no one can blame iNav for doing this. iNav has been one of the last ones to implement any sort of anti-piracy protection into their software. A year ago it was the Laptop/UMPC/CarPC versions, and this year it will be the PPC PDA version.
Marvin Hlavac
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Originally Posted by JohnWPB
I purchased iG4 for $99 around 5 months ago, and have to shell out another $79 is a bit much for the small increase in features.
The pricing details are, or will be, published at iNavcorp.com. It may be useful to review the pricing policy, because I think either in this thread, or some other thread, a user posted info that he pre-ordered iGuidance 2009, and shortly after he paid he was contacted by iNav that he doesn't need to pay for the DVD, and iNav would charge him only a shipping/handling fee because of his recent purchase of iGuidance 4.

Beside the number of improvements done to the software, the new iGuidance 2009 will include a one year fresher map data (© 2008 Navteq). The map data costs iNav money.
malaki86
Any word on if it will allow importing of POI's?
Marvin Hlavac
malaki86, no, this feature is not included in iGuidance 2009.

I just started to write a review of iGuidance 2009. Since I unfortunately don't have the time to write it all at once, but at the same time I want to share the info ASAP, I decided to post at least a little bit of info now, and I will try to edit it and add to it more each day (time permitting).
inav
Please be informed iGuidance 2009 Laptop, UMPC/Car PC edition shipping date will be delayed to 1st week of August for more fine tuning. Thank you for your patience.
Alan_
As far as I know, iGuidance 2009 has not started shipping yet.

Hopefully the orders from July 3rd will be shipping soon.
Alan_
NEW ETA = 8/15/08 - Laptop version
NEW ETA = SEPT. 08 - PPC version
Marvin Hlavac
Alan, that's good news! Friday is the day! I heard iGuidance 2009 was sent for printing on Monday, and it should start shipping, as you said, on Friday.
campc1
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Originally Posted by malaki86
One question from me:

Does it handle importing our own POI's? If not, I won't even bother.

I so agree!!!!
I am an Over The Road Truck Driver, and I have over a thousand Custom POI's marked as POLICE HIDEOUTS!
And I must have the ability to import my custom POI's

dtong22
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Originally Posted by Alan_
NEW ETA = 8/15/08 - Laptop version
NEW ETA = SEPT. 08 - PPC version
I regret that I did not order the iG version 4 which was allowed to be loaded onto my pda + my netbook.
My Asus Mypal is stuck with iG 3 of map of almost 2 yrs vintage.
The day of dual gps for one software is over. I love iG and even though Garmin CNNA is great but it takes time to get used to it. And I still don't

Daniel
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