I was having a problem transferring routes to Garmin Mobile PC. 5 routes to be exact. Waypoints and Tracks transferred no problem. There was no sign of the route in the current.gpx file.
The Routes cover 4000km trip from Calgary to Mazatlan, Mexico.
One of the routes covered the entire 4000km as one route.
The other 4 chopped the 4000km into 1000km segments.
Initially the transfer didn't work. I tried sending 1 route and it transferred and showed up in Mobile PC. I transferred a second route and it showed up as well. A 3rd route would not transfer. On start up of Mobile PC It stalled for a while at a transferring route screen but it did not transfer. I tried different combinations of the two routes. It took two maximum no matter what the distance was. Weird? Anyone experience similar problems?
Harold Muller
Calgary
The Routes cover 4000km trip from Calgary to Mazatlan, Mexico.
One of the routes covered the entire 4000km as one route.
The other 4 chopped the 4000km into 1000km segments.
Initially the transfer didn't work. I tried sending 1 route and it transferred and showed up in Mobile PC. I transferred a second route and it showed up as well. A 3rd route would not transfer. On start up of Mobile PC It stalled for a while at a transferring route screen but it did not transfer. I tried different combinations of the two routes. It took two maximum no matter what the distance was. Weird? Anyone experience similar problems?
Harold Muller
Calgary
Hi Harold,
Transferring routes is not one of Mobile PC's strongest features at the moment.
As you have discovered, the current version of Mobile PC will only accept one route at a time. It has been reported to Garmin and accepted as a defect.
You can actually transfer multiple routes and if they have unique names you will see all the different names in the "Manage My Data > Routes" list. However, they will not be all of the different routes. They will actually be the detailed routing for the first name in the list for all of the routes in that transfer. That is, Mobile PC picks up the individual names okay but it attaches just the first route details to all of them and ignores the rest.
There is a limit to the length of the route name Mobile PC will accept. According to Garmin Product Support it is 35 characters. Your guess is as good as mine what might happen if your route name in Mapsource is 36 characters or longer when you try to transfer it to Mobile PC. ... Especially if the first 35 characters are not unique.
Check in Mapsource and see if the route names are 35 characters or less and that they are unique. That may not be the problem but it's a place to start.
If that doesn't fix the problem, would you mind posting some of the problem routes here so we can take a run at them? (Just attach them to a message with a quick description in the message of what happens when each one is transferred to Mobile PC.) The original GDB file would be best (strip out anything you don't want to share but make sure the sample route(s) still break when transferring to Mobile PC before attaching the file).
You can easily attach files by clicking on the "Manage Attachments" button down below the text editing box in the section titles "Additional Options". Ooops, GDB is not listed in the permitted file types, so you have a couple of options. Either just zip the GDB file (prefered) or save it as a GPX file. Either .ZIP or .GPX will upload just fine.
...ken...
Transferring routes is not one of Mobile PC's strongest features at the moment.
As you have discovered, the current version of Mobile PC will only accept one route at a time. It has been reported to Garmin and accepted as a defect.
You can actually transfer multiple routes and if they have unique names you will see all the different names in the "Manage My Data > Routes" list. However, they will not be all of the different routes. They will actually be the detailed routing for the first name in the list for all of the routes in that transfer. That is, Mobile PC picks up the individual names okay but it attaches just the first route details to all of them and ignores the rest.
There is a limit to the length of the route name Mobile PC will accept. According to Garmin Product Support it is 35 characters. Your guess is as good as mine what might happen if your route name in Mapsource is 36 characters or longer when you try to transfer it to Mobile PC. ... Especially if the first 35 characters are not unique.
Check in Mapsource and see if the route names are 35 characters or less and that they are unique. That may not be the problem but it's a place to start.
If that doesn't fix the problem, would you mind posting some of the problem routes here so we can take a run at them? (Just attach them to a message with a quick description in the message of what happens when each one is transferred to Mobile PC.) The original GDB file would be best (strip out anything you don't want to share but make sure the sample route(s) still break when transferring to Mobile PC before attaching the file).
You can easily attach files by clicking on the "Manage Attachments" button down below the text editing box in the section titles "Additional Options". Ooops, GDB is not listed in the permitted file types, so you have a couple of options. Either just zip the GDB file (prefered) or save it as a GPX file. Either .ZIP or .GPX will upload just fine.
...ken...
Hello Ken:
Thank you for getting back to me. I was finally able to transfer all 5 routes into Mobile PC. One of my problems was that the route names were too long. I fixed that by keeping them under 35 characters. I tried tansfering them all at once. That did not work. It took the data as you mentioned from the first route and used it for all 5 routes.
Then I tried transfering one route at a time from Mapsource. After each transfer I started Mobile PC and let it do it's transfer conversion on the new added route.
The data for each unique route is now visible under manage data and on the map. Very messy in comparison to nRoute which I have been using for a number of years.
Will be trying out Mobile PC side by side with nRoute on our drive to Mazatlan Mexico departing Nov 22nd.
Thanks again for your help.
Harold Muller
Calgary
Thank you for getting back to me. I was finally able to transfer all 5 routes into Mobile PC. One of my problems was that the route names were too long. I fixed that by keeping them under 35 characters. I tried tansfering them all at once. That did not work. It took the data as you mentioned from the first route and used it for all 5 routes.
Then I tried transfering one route at a time from Mapsource. After each transfer I started Mobile PC and let it do it's transfer conversion on the new added route.
The data for each unique route is now visible under manage data and on the map. Very messy in comparison to nRoute which I have been using for a number of years.
Will be trying out Mobile PC side by side with nRoute on our drive to Mazatlan Mexico departing Nov 22nd.
Thanks again for your help.
Harold Muller
Calgary
I'm glad you got it working, Harold. Please do keep us informed. I'll be very interested in your comparison of the two programs on a significant trip.
I don't s'pose you've got room for one more? You wouldn't need to put up with me for very long. You could just shove me out at the first golf course that will be open all winter.
...ken...
I don't s'pose you've got room for one more? You wouldn't need to put up with me for very long. You could just shove me out at the first golf course that will be open all winter.
...ken...
Ken:
I have been doing this trip annually for a few years now. I have always used nRoute and it worked well. Following previous track was particularly useful in Mexico because some of the roads going through some cities are not as well marked as you would want. Don't think that Mobile PC offers the flexibility but I will find out.
I have found though that after installing Mobile PC on the laptop the nRoute progran started acting up, doing some quirky things. It would freeze up sometimes.
Had to do a complete windows reinstall for another reason. Mapsource and nRoute worked well until I installed Mobile PC. Same response sometime. Perhaps puts a whole new slant on development of a killer application by Garmin. We are kind of stranded because support for nRoute is now minimal to non-existant and Mobile PC still appears to have a number of bugs.
Harold Muller
Calgary
I have been doing this trip annually for a few years now. I have always used nRoute and it worked well. Following previous track was particularly useful in Mexico because some of the roads going through some cities are not as well marked as you would want. Don't think that Mobile PC offers the flexibility but I will find out.
I have found though that after installing Mobile PC on the laptop the nRoute progran started acting up, doing some quirky things. It would freeze up sometimes.
Had to do a complete windows reinstall for another reason. Mapsource and nRoute worked well until I installed Mobile PC. Same response sometime. Perhaps puts a whole new slant on development of a killer application by Garmin. We are kind of stranded because support for nRoute is now minimal to non-existant and Mobile PC still appears to have a number of bugs.
Harold Muller
Calgary
You should be able to run either of those programs on a computer. I had a little problem with nRoute recently which appeared to resolve itself. It may have just required a computer restart but was not related to Mobile PC which has been on this computer for over a year.
If you are trying to use the same GPS, there would be a problem. If your GPS is a USB 20x, try unplugging it and then reconnecting it before changing programs. This problem may also apply to the Bluetooth 10x GPS as it may have to be switched back to PVT (Garmin mode) to support nRoute.
I have both programs running right now but am using GPS Gate to supply more than one data stream from a Bluetooth GPS.
Terry
If you are trying to use the same GPS, there would be a problem. If your GPS is a USB 20x, try unplugging it and then reconnecting it before changing programs. This problem may also apply to the Bluetooth 10x GPS as it may have to be switched back to PVT (Garmin mode) to support nRoute.
I have both programs running right now but am using GPS Gate to supply more than one data stream from a Bluetooth GPS.
Terry
I am using the USB out from a Garmin 60Csx into the laptop with both nRoute and Mobile PC installed. I have usually only been running one program at a time but I will try you suggestion to unplug and re-plug in the USB the next time I have a problem.
Suggestions always appreciated.
Harold
Calgary
Suggestions always appreciated.
Harold
Calgary
You are in Ken's territory for that as I don't have a Garmin USB handheld.
I assume you are not having an issue with Mobile PC complaining about the serail number of your 60CSx. If you do, there is a solution for that. Of course GPS Gate can resolve most Garmin GPS related problems too.
Terry
I assume you are not having an issue with Mobile PC complaining about the serail number of your 60CSx. If you do, there is a solution for that. Of course GPS Gate can resolve most Garmin GPS related problems too.
Terry
I have not experienced any problems yet but you never know. Could happen yet. Greatest problems after getting the mapsets transferred was transferring the routes to Mobile PC which I created in Mapsource.
Harold
Calgary
Harold
Calgary
Harold,
Do you have the latest versions of Mobile PC (5.00.60g) and nRoute (2.76) installed? I don't know if that would make any difference but it's one of those automatic questions we computer geeks have to ask. Sort of like, "Is it plugged in?".
I assume you've also transfered your track file(s) over to Mobile PC in case you need to follow it again this trip.
...ken...
Do you have the latest versions of Mobile PC (5.00.60g) and nRoute (2.76) installed? I don't know if that would make any difference but it's one of those automatic questions we computer geeks have to ask. Sort of like, "Is it plugged in?".
I assume you've also transfered your track file(s) over to Mobile PC in case you need to follow it again this trip.
...ken...
I have the latest version of Mobile PC and the last version of nRoute you listed. All the waypoints and previous tracks (2 x 4000kms, 1 direct route south and 1 via California) transferred easily. The five routes as I mentioned yesterday took a bit fooling around to get it into Mobile PC. They now reside in Mapsource T&WPM, nRoute and Mobile PC.
For maps I use CNNANT and for Mexico the MexicoGPSAtlas by BiciMapas.
Harold
Calgary
For maps I use CNNANT and for Mexico the MexicoGPSAtlas by BiciMapas.
Harold
Calgary