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Streets and Trips 2011, AutoRoute 2011
sailoredon
Any idea when version 2011 will be available?
Marvin Hlavac
Microsoft in past years launched new versions of Streets & Trips in the U.S. in August, September, or October. Microsoft Canada launches MS Streets and Trips usually a month or two later.

The European version of the product, AutoRoute, is usually expected approximately a couple of months after the U.S. launch.

As soon as the 2011 versions become available, reviews will be posted at the following links:

werdnanostaw
Any update on the release date of Streets & Trips 2011?

The reason I ask is:

When we arrived home this morning at 0500 we had no firm future travel plans.

We had a sleep until 1500. When we got up there was an email from Qantas offering fares from Perth to Los Angeles for AUD1480 (USD1290). We went up to Flight Centre and booked.

That means we’re only at home until 18 August when we fly to Los Angeles for 90 days (the maximum visa free period for Australians).

We're going to head for Glacier NP. I've been to the USA and Canada 6 times before but it's always been snowed in.

We'll keep going up to Edmondton, across to Vancouver and then down the west coast.

Chris REALLY wants to see Crater Lake NP. She's been there twice before and each time it's been too cloudy to see anything.

We'll be camping most of the way.

Are there any Laptop GPS World readers along the way who'd like to meet up? We're not looking for free accommodation. We'd just like to say Hi to some Americans and Canadians.
Larry
Sounds like a great adventure! Go with S&T 2010.
Marvin Hlavac
Andrew, we will be separated by one or two time-zones :-). You will like your visit here. It's going to be more fun w/out all the snow!!!

As Larry says, don't leave home w/out S&T 2010. If Streets and Trips 2011 becomes available during your trip, you will most likely be able to buy it where ever you happen to be at that time (U.S. usually gets it a few weeks before Canada does, though).
Ken in Regina
Hi Andrew,

Keep us, or at least me, posted as your travel plans firm up. I'm about a day east of your likely most eastern points in Canada (e.g. Cardston to Calgary to Edmonton) but it rarely takes much to convince me to head west.

By the way, Waterton Lakes National Park is the Canadian extension of Glacier NP. Depending on what you are interested in looking at and what sorts of roads you like to travel, I can make some routing suggestions to get from Glacier (east side or west side, let me know) up to Edmonton by something other than divided freeways.

Do you have Garmin maps and a viewer/planner like Mapsource or Basecamp?

If not, I can do suggested routes, transfer to Google Earth and save them as KML/KMZ files for you to look at in Google Earth.

It would probably be easier for me to meet you for coffee somewhere east of Vancouver (two fairly long driving days from here). But I've gone to the west coast for flimsier reasons.

...ken...
SpadesFlush
Andrew, without taking anything away from your US destinations, I would advise more time north of the border simply because it is spectacular there that time of year. Great people, too.
DanTheDriver
Hi Andrew,

I drive tour bus all over Alberta, BC, and Washington state. Mostly BC though. There is some incredible things to see and do. Send me a note if you would like any help or ideas at all (DanTheDriver@telus.blackberry.net). Also if you are around the Kamloops BC area, call me, and a free bed is surly a very open invitation if needed. You must do the "Icefields Parkway" in Alberta. It's the most awsome scenery ever. Check out this link: www.icefieldsparkway.ca
werdnanostaw
Thank you all for your replies.

We leave for Los Angeles next Tuesday (we changed the date from 18 to 24 Aug).

We pick up the car (AUD40/day ~ USD36 ~ CAD37 - Boy that is so close to parity. I hadn't realised. I've been tracking the AUD/USD rate but I never looked at AUD/CAD.) on Friday and start our trip north.

We don't have an ETA for our arrival in Canada. I have a broad outline of the route taking in lots of Scenic Byways and National Parks but I have no idea how long it will take. We have 3 months so we will take things slowly.

I will contact you when we are closer to the 49th.
Respond Wayne
I stopped by Best Buy in Buffalo, NY today... nothing yet...
Marvin Hlavac
Hey, Wayne is here!!! It may only mean a new version of Streets & Trips is just around the corner!!! :-)
malaki86
I hope they decide to finally put a TRUE driving mode in it, along with a nice touchscreen interface. Not holding my breath, though.
MisterMoonlight
In the meantime (if you don't know it), you may freely try S&T Keys 2010 (see my signature for links) with the 2010 versions to get a better than nothing touch screen interface. :-)
malaki86
I tried it, but it really didn't work out for me. It's not your program, but Streets itself. When trying to add something quickly and on-the-fly while driving, it's impossible to read the text from a search on a 7" screen. Streets needs a large-font interface such as on iGuidance to make it work correctly.

I absolutely LOVE the planning features of Streets. When planning a cross-country trip (which I do non-stop), I can punch in exactly where I need to stop for fuel, where I need to stop for my required breaks, etc. When I put in the "Stop for" and "Depart At" times, I can be within 1hr of the projected time, even on a 2,500 mile trip. But, for the driving part (other than looking at the map), it just doesn't work out. So, for now, I use Streets to plan the entire trip, then use Garmin Mobile PC for each day's driving. At least with Mobile PC I can find and add a truckstop, rest area, etc as I need throughout the day.
Marvin Hlavac
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Originally Posted by malaki86
When trying to add something quickly and on-the-fly while driving, it's impossible to read the text from a search on a 7" screen. Streets needs a large-font interface such as on iGuidance to make it work correctly.

I absolutely LOVE the planning features of Streets. When planning a cross-country trip (which I do non-stop), I can punch in exactly where I need to stop for fuel, where I need to stop for my required breaks, etc. When I put in the "Stop for" and "Depart At" times, I can be within 1hr of the projected time, even on a 2,500 mile trip. But, for the driving part (other than looking at the map), it just doesn't work out. So, for now, I use Streets to plan the entire trip, then use Garmin Mobile PC for each day's driving. At least with Mobile PC I can find and add a truckstop, rest area, etc as I need throughout the day.




Microsoft has the difficult part right, Streets & Trips is an excellent trip planner. Now if they just could re-do the navigation part to resemble Garmin Mobile PC interface, or the interface of the many inexpensive PNDs on the market.

We love to plan our trips with the easy-to-use interface of the current Streets & Trips, but after we've planned our trip, we would love to switch to a completely different GUI designed for drivers.
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