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Newbee
I never did understand why Microsoft provides new versions in the fall when it really would make sense, to me anyways to offer it in the spring in preparation of summer travel.
Ken in Regina
It gives you all winter to do your travel planning with the new tool.

...ken...
taoyue
Consumer software (Encarta, Quicken, etc.) has traditionally been targeted for the (Christmas) holiday season. Usually S&T is a couple months early for the holidays, but not this year.

It's also difficult to move off a schedule once you're already on it. A new release provides a boost to software sales. Moving to spring release would require the S&T team either to rush out a new release in 6 months, or wait 18 months and skip a fiscal year.
Newbee
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Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
It gives you all winter to do your travel planning with the new tool.
LOL. I don't plan things a month in advance, never mind an entire winter.
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Originally Posted by taoyue
Consumer software (Encarta, Quicken, etc.) has traditionally been targeted for the (Christmas) holiday season. Usually S&T is a couple months early for the holidays, but not this year.

It's also difficult to move off a schedule once you're already on it. A new release provides a boost to software sales. Moving to spring release would require the S&T team either to rush out a new release in 6 months, or wait 18 months and skip a fiscal year.
That makes sense. I would rather they skip a year though.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with S&T in the future since Smartphones are becoming very prevalent in terms of navigation and almost everyone has a GPS.
SpadesFlush
I have GPS on my not-so-smart phone (IQ about 75) but I cannot use it unless I sign up for some dumb nav program provided by some unknown company for 10 bucks a month. That'll be the day.
winwaed
I don't know about the iPhone, but the built-in iPad software is virtually useless for navigation. Yes it has a very slick interface when connected by Wifi, but the actual navigation is very limited. It doesn't give spoken directions. You have to manually tell it to move from the current direction to the next one, etc. Luckily I wasn't driving when I tried it and my driver (MrsWinwaed) knew where she was going. We also had a Tom-Tom with us which we used later for city navigation.

The iPad might be better for pedestrian navigation (which is supports), although perhaps a bit big for that to be a regular proposition.


Richard
Newbee
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Originally Posted by winwaed
The iPad might be better for pedestrian navigation (which is supports), although perhaps a bit big for that to be a regular proposition.
I don't think the iPad was designed for that. If anything, the iPod Touch would be geared for that, but in the absence of an actual GPS it's not that useful except to acquire your position. There are other maps you can acquire for the iPhone that give you, IIRC, voice navigation. TomTom is just one app.
snakeman48
The GPS software that came with my Sprint / Nextel phone is a PITA is use, and it's slooooow. I'll just keep S&T and use my laptop that I take with me anyways.
chieftom
I just received an email from Microsoft with details on a sale on S&T 2010 that expires on October 23.

It looks like MS is trying to dump the old stock before the release of the new version. Too bad for the poor schumks that jump on it thinking they are getting a good deal.

Anyone want to bet that Streets and Trips 2011 will be released by November 1st?
Ken in Regina
Nav programs that come with bundled maps are kind of like hunting for a good deal on a car. Getting a year-old version for a big discount off new retail is usually a really good deal. With a few exceptions, the maps don't change hugely from one year to the next and there normally aren't any really earth-shattering improvements in the program between single years. They are usually tweaking and evolutionary improvements.

There are still people out there who are cheerfully using versions of Streets&Trips from 2005/6/7 and don't feel the least bit deprived for not having the latest version.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
At Streets & Trips Facebook page, a fellow by the name of Albert Clawson asked:

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I've been hearing rumors that MS has either decided to skip S&T 2011 or discontinue the entire product [...]
Larry responded:

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Ignore the rumors...there is definitely a S&T 2011 in the works.
TimBit20
Well my trial version of S and T 2010 is done today. I'll leave 2005 in my laptop and go without in this netbook. Looks like we'll be buying a Tom Tom and maybe look again for a new version later.
Larry
In a pinch you could always download the Microsoft MapPoint 2010 trial. It will give you another 60 days and contains all the S&T functionality plus several other bonus features such as the ability to visualize demographic data, use Territories, Export to Excel, Map Settings, etc.

A note on file compatibility: In MapPoint the saved map files are in a *.ptm format. They cannot be saved as *.est files (which S&T requires). However, MP 2010 can view the S&T 2010 map files. Hope that makes sense.
TimBit20
MapPoint might be more than I need for my netbook but I'll consider trying it out in my home system. Thanks for the advice. I hope MS keeps up with Streets and Trips though I'd hate to see them discontinue it.
TimBit20
Will MapPoint work on my netbook with the old GPS from my S & T 2005 until Streets & Trips 2011 is available?
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