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S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2010 Bugs Report
MisterMoonlight
You can post any bugs discovered with S&T Keys 2010 here.

When posting a bug:

1- Explain which version of S&T Keys 2010 you are using (hoover your mouse on the icon in windows tray menu).
2- Gives the exact details (procedure steps) on how to reproduce the problem.
3- Try the given procedure for problem reproduction more than one time to see if it is repeatable.
4- Give the operating system version and details.
5- Give computer details.
6- Give S&T version and options configuration.
7- Be patient , S&T Keys is a free program and i have a lot more other things to do in real life (like working to have some bread to eat!)


S&T Keys 2010 Software main thread
SpadesFlush
I started to try the 2010 beta on my UMPC. I could not complete the installation.

I get an"AutoIt Error" as follows: Line -1: Error: Unable to execute the external program. The system cannot find the file specified.

Click the OK button and the screen is cleared and that's all.

Win XP/S&T 2010.
tcassidy
SpadesFlush, I have never used this program before so this may be obvious to everyone else. I just copied the downloaded exe file to my Streets.exe folder. I started S&T but didn't know what to expect so I clicked on the Keys.exe file as well. The buttons showed up and have been there ever since. I think you have to, at least, have S&T running before you select key.exe though.


Terry
tcassidy
The menu looks fine in Vista. One confusion was the 'Please Wait' message didn't disappear when I chose the destination button. I filled in the pane anyway and it set up the trip, went to full screen and then the keyboard warning disappeared. On a second try, I realize you have to wait a long time for the message to disappear. Unfortunately, the menu button doesn't come back so I cant access the OSK. I guess you have to do that first.

Terry
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
... you have to, at least, have S&T running before you select key.exe though...
I get the same result with S&T running or not.

Also, the exe file is not found, so I conclude that the installation was not complete.
tcassidy
What exe is not found? The download I got was called 'S&T Keys.exe'. The only other executable is 'Streets.exe'

Terry
MisterMoonlight
tcassidy said:

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I think you have to, at least, have S&T running before you select key.exe though.
No you don't. If S&T is not running, by clicking S&T Keys.exe, it will start S&T 2010 by itself.

But the first time you download it from the forum and starts it, it will install itself then rename to "S&T Keys.exe". The 2nd time you start it, it will work correctly and starts S&T 2010 if needed. If S&T is already started, it will simply starts and stay alive from windows tray. You can then press F4 and see the popup menu to see that it is running. You may at this pt configure with the options button. All these informations are available from the online manual...
MisterMoonlight
SpadesFlush said:

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I get an"AutoIt Error" as follows: Line -1: Error: Unable to execute the external program. The system cannot find the file specified.

Click the OK button and the screen is cleared and that's all.

Win XP/S&T 2010.
You should have nothing to do to make it work. It may be something related to your configuration. Can you try last year version and see if you got the same error?

This error look of something i got before when using "POI Scanner.exe" tool. Look if you have this tool in the same directory of "S&T Keys.exe" and rename it. S&T Keys is starting this tool if he can find it in the same directory. I got the problem with the tool last year with the 2009 version...

I have tested it on 2 differents XP computer (laptop and desktop) and it is working correctly...
Hope this help.
SpadesFlush
All is forgiven! Operator Error (mine) was the problem. Dohhh!

I had attempted to run Keys without first saving it to the UMPC. Now, having saved it to the Desktop it opens seamlessly.

Initial report: Keys seems pretty good! With this UMPC, everything is touch-screen activated. The larger main Keys buttons are especially useful in this context. Even the menu buttons are better than the native S&T buttons for finger activation.

Re my concerns about Keys in portrait mode; it seems to work just fine. At least on inside examination. I have not been outside to try a true GPS navigation; that will have to wait a bit.
Marvin Hlavac
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I get an"AutoIt Error" as follows: Line -1: Error: Unable to execute the external program. The system cannot find the file specified.
I think this is trying to tell us that S&T Keys wants to, but is unable to, start your Streets & Trips.

If I recall correctly, at least the older versions of S&T Keys, used to look into the Registry to find out the path to Streets.exe. I'm not sure how it works in the current version, and if this works correctly for all operating systems.

By the way, what operating system are you testing this on, SpadesFlush?
SpadesFlush
Testing on UMPC (Viliv) Win XP.
tcassidy
You must have incredibly small fingers, SpadesFlush, to be able to run S&T on a 5" screen in portrait mode. And great eyesight too!!

Terry
MisterMoonlight
tcassidy said:

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The menu looks fine in Vista. One confusion was the 'Please Wait' message didn't disappear when I chose the destination button. I filled in the pane anyway and it set up the trip, went to full screen and then the keyboard warning disappeared. On a second try, I realize you have to wait a long time for the message to disappear.
It is design exactly like this. You have 2mn to enter your destination in the find panel then when you find it and press enter, S&T Keys will continue to proceed (this is the reason why the please wait panel stays there everytime S&T Keys is doing something. May be i could use a different panel at this point to show that user must enter his destination in a future release), then setup the navigation mode as choosen in S&T Keys option including calendar mode if selected, center the gps icon on screen, zoom a little, starting GPS, etc, etc.

Basically, HOME, END , F5, F8 (or F4 then F8 through popup menu) are variant of always the same thing. They all start/continue navigation from curent GPS location. The difference is the way you ignitiate the process, but it will do almost the same.

F5 is intended to start/refresh/reroute when you enter your complete route in S&T route planner first before going (it can also be used to refresh the route while navigating from current gps location, this will also refresh the estimates in calendar navigation mode also if option is active).

HOME, will clean any left route and calculate a new route from your current gps location to your home address

F8, will clean any route and will calculate a new route from your current gps location to the favorite destination you selected in the favorite S&T Keys panel

END will clean the actual route, bringup the S&T find panel so you can enter your desired destination, (you have 2 mn to do this), then when done, it will calculate a route from your current gps location to the destination you entered in the find panel...

We can say that END key is the 1st time user method or unexperience S&T user (don't need to understand the concept of planning a route separatly, than starting navigation). It will automate the complete process...
SpadesFlush
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
You must have incredibly small fingers, SpadesFlush, to be able to run S&T on a 5" screen in portrait mode. And great eyesight too!!

Terry
I assure you neither is the case. It is the same resolution in portrait as landscape. Bear in mind that I don't do extensive route planning on the UMPC; I do that on a 24" screen/desktop and then download onto the UMPC. Also, the UMPC comes with a little plastic guitar pick that is useful for fine clicking.

Net net, I really like the UMPC for in-car navigation and I can see that Keys will be a serious enhancement. I was using Keys with S&T 2007 on the UMPC briefly before 2010 came out.
MisterMoonlight
SpadesFlush said:

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Net net, I really like the UMPC for in-car navigation and I can see that Keys will be a serious enhancement.
I am happy that you can find it usefull. Because it is a hobby for me and that i earn nothing with that, my only reward is your satisfaction
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