So does Microsoft Streets and Trips recognize time zones and change arrival times accordingly?

I am going from a Pacific time zone at start of trip and ending in a Mountain time zone at end of day. Does Streets & Trips give you the ending time at the end of day as MT or PT in the trip planner?

Did that make sense?

If you plan a route and then read through the directions pane, at the point where you change time zones you will see a "notification line", asking you to check your time as your next stop is in a different time zone.

Wayne

Thanks Wayne. Ya I did see that. What I need to know is, does the time that shows in the next section after it indicates a new time zone the new time zone time or the starting time zone time. Good Lord that was a mouthful.

No, S&T warns you of time zone changes but does not adjust the time shown accordingly.

Terry

AHHHHHH ... stupid program.
Ya know, MS Flightsim can recognize time zone and adjust accordingly. Also Streets & Trips knows time zones because it tells you when it plots the route. So there is obviously a way to know time zones and then adjust arrival times to them. This seems like a lazy non-feature. Somebody just can't be bothered to do it.

Like they do with many other program's MS should open up the code so that people could develop add-ons for Streets & Trips. My Lord could you imagine the things people would come up with making this the most powerful GPS program out there. It would only be limited to ones imagination. MS Fligtsim is a super powerful program out there because people develop add-ons for it.

I have seen zero interest in the time zone shortcoming mentioned here. Maybe you should add it to the Wish List for Microsoft Streets and Trips.

Terry

Although one is very rarely more than one time zone away from where he or she started the day while driving, it would be somewhat better if Streets & Trips displayed time in the applicable time zone as Dan suggests.

Amen brother. +1

Curt

Automatic time changes would be great. Some of us live close to a zone change. I'm about half a mile from one and travel back and forth a lot. Re-adjusting the times would be one less thing to worry about.

Streets & Trips users can now use the new Streets & Trips Time Zone template by Steve Jones.

Actually, this is exactly why I just joined the forum; I was trying to see if there was a way for the arrival time to be shown (if you travel across several time zones) in terms of the time zone at the finish of the trip and not the time zone where the route started.

I participate in a sport that requires you to arrive at various destinations along a multi-thousand-mile route at precise times. We go back and forth through virtually all time zones in North America. Right now, I use a hand-drawn chart to quickly indicated my time of arrival in local time. It is a real pain. Having S&T do this for me would be a dream-come-true.

I'll check back here from time to time for any suggestions.

Thanks,
Jim

There is a minor complication when it comes to Daylight Savings Time. Arizona does not recognize it although the Navajo Nation does. That nation is in three states.

An even more minor complication: Hawaii doesn't recognize it.

I guess unless your making a regular run in and out of the Navajo Nation, it's a minor detail. Also, driving from the mainland to Hawaii might not be an issue either...LOL

You're right. The problem would be trying to incorporate the time differences of the Navajo Nation into S&T and its locations within the three states.

Bingo - Maybe everybody should just stop trying to fight it and conform to the world of Microsoft.
It's like the Borg - Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

I think some of already have been.

I'm speaking only of the time zone issue and not trying to defend Microsoft generally. It's not just Microsoft who doesn't do it. Nobody does it. There's a good reason nobody does it. It's very difficult.

...ken...

See I find this hard to believe Ken. Reason being is because in the MS Flightsim they were able replicate the time zones throughout the world with no problem at all. Flightsim was able to use real time and was able to calculate arrival times with no problem. Streets & Trips in itself is not much more then a high end computer game. Flightsim was not much more then a super GPS that you could play in. Flightsim in the long run was a super mapping program that was very very accurate. It has the advantage of being able to map routes etc. All the other add-ons etc are really just programming features. If a program like Flightsim can accurately depict time zones then it should not be a big deal for S&T to use that same programming ideas to do it also. The two teams just need to put their heads together. I also believe that if MS were to open up the code we would see an influx of super add-ons being created by the users. There would be no stopping what S&T could do.

Dan, if you check out Flight Simulator I think you will find that the time zones are not accurate. That is, they just use the lines of longitude. I'm pretty sure they make no attempt to jiggle the time zone lines around to take into account all of the many exceptions, all of which are political and subject to change without notice. That's okay for a game. You can get away with it because it's a game.

But you can't get away with it when serious travelers and truckers are using it to calculate schedules. People like you will kill them if they make even one tiny mistake.

...ken...

I have a very simple solution to the time zone problem, from over 40 years of flying back and forth between time zones. At the start of a trip, I just set my watch to the time zone of the place that I will stop at that night. That eliminates any confusion over when and where to change times. When flying of course, we always use Greenwich, (UTC) time and no time zone change is required.
Al

I have a simpler method. I leave my watch at home. (Truthfully, I haven't worn a watch for twenty years.) I've been using my cell phone as a timepiece for most of that time. My cell phone automatically picks up the local time from the local cell network.

...ken...

Great idea. Unfortunately, after 45 years of flying, where precise time was essential, I have not been able to be separated from my watch, even in retirement. Something like the panic cell phone and blackberry users suffer when they are without theirs. I guess we all have our obsessions.
Al

I'm like Al. I worked in TV and radio for many, many years. It was even a moonlighting job while I was a cop. Precise timing is sometimes necessary.