HomeGarmin


Garmin Mobile PC with 10x Discontinued
xPosTech
I'm trying to buy a Garmin Mobile PC 10X bundle. On Amazon it's discounted to $120.28. I can find no reference to the map dates but I assume it's 2010 cuz of the price and the next to last statement of the Technical Details (the thread title).

The Part # is 010-00742-00. That is the same part # listed on Garmin's site. Still no reference to map dates at Garmin either. Can I assume the bundles shipped from Garmin ($149 at 2 to 4 weeks) have the latest maps?

I can't find a way to order the lifetime updates for Mobile PC. Garmin wants to download a device detector to tell me what to buy. Since I'm going to get the lifetime update I don't think it matters a lot if the bundle from Amazon is a little outdated. But that "discontinued" thing has me worried.

Can someone throw me the part # for Garmin Mobile PC Lifetime Updates? Maybe I can stick it in the search box at Garmin and order it that way.

I won't break Ken's rule by asking another question. Heh.

Sorry this was so long winded. At my age I don't have enough wind to waste.

Ted

Edit: Sorry Ken I guess there's more than one question anyway.
tcassidy
From the experience of others, all Mobile PC with GPS packages (even refurbished ones) have been elgible for a downloadable update of the latest map version from Garmin. I hadn't seen the discontinued notice when I was looking at this package recently but, maybe Garmin is dropping the 10x.

Last time I checked, the lifetime update was available as a card (with no value) or by purchasing it directly from Garmin as an addition to the product via your MyGarmin account. You set up your account when you register the product.

Terry
Ken in Regina
As far as I know, Garmin did not change the part numbers for the three Mobile PC products (software-only, 10x and 20x) when they released the version with the 2010 maps. They made the silly argument that they didn't change the program so they didn't need to change the part numbers. So their retailers were left with no way to confirm what version of maps they were actually getting from Garmin ... old stock with the old maps or new stock with the new maps.

There was a point when Garmin confirmed that they were shipping only the new (2010) version. That was months ago. So any purchase from Garmin will be with the 2010 maps. Buying from Amazon would be guesswork but this late in the product cycle would lead me to expect the 2010 maps. The discounting would be because it is so late in the product cycle. Regardless whether there will be a next version with new maps, the current product has maps that are now considered pretty old, therefore of less value.

As Terry said, if you get the version bundled with a GPS receiver you can register it in your MyGarmin account and you should be eligible for a map update.

I'm not sure when I said I didn't like multiple questions in one post or what I actually said. Just to clarify, I don't mind multiple questions in a single post as long as they are clearly worded and it's clear they are seperate questions. And the poster clearly understands that they've asked multiple questions.

It's that last bit that perhaps causes a misunderstanding when I point out that the poster has really asked multiple questions. That's not to discourage multiple questions in a post but to ensure the poster understands that they've asked more than one. I do that to clarify exactly the questions I'm about to answer and so that the multiple answers I have to give won't confuse them any more than they already might be.

From the standpoint of readers/searchers finding things in the forum I know that Marvin would love it if people would only ask one question per post, make it very clear in the title what the question is and start a new thread with each unrelated question. But that's every forum moderator's wet dream.

...ken...
xPosTech
Ken
Oops. I wasn't serious about the number of questions. It goes back to the original release of Garmin Mobile PC and registering/activating GMPC. You wouldn't pose more than one problem at a time to Garmin Tech Support. I totally agree with one ticket, one problem. I was in TS for 30 years.

I checked the Amazon site again. The 20X bundle and the S/W only do NOT have the "Discontinued" detail. I already have a BU-353 and BT-Q818X. I only want a bundle for the lifetime updates. But if the package includes one update maybe I would be better off with getting the S/W only version every year or so?

I think you guys in Canada have the same (if not more) problems with lack of up-to-date maps as we do in Texas. M$ Streets & Trips is a wash out. It only shows about 10-20% of the County Roads in the lakes area of South East Texas.

These roads and addresses were added to the 911 system in the 90's. By that I mean changed from the RFD USPS P.O.Box# scheme to standard named roads with addresses. Google Maps (images show 2008) finds addresses (and knows the roads are there) in the area but mobile net coverage is spotty.

Enough rambling.
Ted
tcassidy
The downloadable update does not apply to the software-only version of Mobile PC.

Terry
xPosTech
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
From the experience of others, all Mobile PC with GPS packages (even refurbished ones) have been elgible for a downloadable update of the latest map version from Garmin. I hadn't seen the discontinued notice when I was looking at this package recently but, maybe Garmin is dropping the 10x.

Last time I checked, the lifetime update was available as a card (with no value) or by purchasing it directly from Garmin as an addition to the product via your MyGarmin account. You set up your account when you register the product.

Terry
Hmmm. I just reread this. The first time I thought you said that all versions came with an update. If the S/W only does not include an update then the Amazon version at $47.81 is off the table. I want at least current maps.

I still can't find out if Garmin is shipping 2010 maps or 2011. I guess a phone call is in order.

Thanks Terry
Ted
xPosTech
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
The downloadable update does not apply to the software-only version of Mobile PC.

Terry
Heh. I'm slow but I got it. You jumped in while I was replying and getting coffee.

Guess I'm back to the bundle.

Thanks again
Ted
tcassidy
As Ken said, the 2011 maps have been out for a while so it is likely the stock will be that version. However, I don't know how is could be guaranteed as the part number doesn't change. The difference is you can't get the lifetime updates. But then, maybe Garmin will update the product within the next 5 years!!

Terry
xPosTech
I think you're right that Garmin is shipping with 2011 maps. But I doubt that the S/W only from Amazon has 2011 - more than likely they are early 2010.

My point is Amazon is probably a crap shoot. With one update in the package and eligible for lifetime it wouldn't matter except for the "discontinued" detail. From what I see on their site Garmin decides when a product can no longer be updated.

It may just mean they're moving to an updated BT receiver.

Ted
tcassidy
Or it could be Amazon has decided not to stock that version any more as the 20x one moves off the shelves faster. I'm still waiting for Garmin to come out with a new version so I can get the one with BT. I really don't like the 20x. I have had a stand alone 10x for some time and it is a great GPS though.

Terry
xPosTech
This is getting interesting. I just ordered 010-00742-00 from Driven GPS for $49.99. Three day shipping added $11.43 for a total of $61.42. That's about half of what Amazon wanted.

I've got my eyes open. By that I mean I've been burned by discounted items in the past. The recent past. I swore I would not order from discount houses if the price was within 15 or 20 percent of the manufacturer. I had already decided to order from Garmin not Amazon.

But I couldn't pass on a new bundle for only 1/3 the price. The savings will almost pay for the lifetime update. If I can't get the update I'll yell and scream (I live alone) and use it till it breaks. But I should be able to update.

With my luck Garmin will release a new package 1 Sept. with a USB/BT receiver. Oh well I have my BT-Q818X (that I can't use with GMPC if I want the updates. . . unless . . .Hmmm).

Ted
tcassidy
That is an amazing price! The 10x alone sells for almost twice that. Maybe it is discontinued.

Terry
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by xPosTech
I still can't find out if Garmin is shipping 2010 maps or 2011. I guess a phone call is in order.
Keep us posted, Ted.

There has been no announcement of a "new" version, so my bet is that it's still the 2010 maps.

If you don't want to sit on hold, you can always email ProductSupport@garmin.com.

...ken...
xPosTech
It's kind of a moot point for me what Garmin is shipping now that I ordered from DrivenGPS. I tend to side with Terry that Garmin is shipping 2011 since the updates have been posted for a while. What I get Monday or Tuesday is anybody's guess.

I'm sure the packages have been sitting on the shelf for a while at Driven. What gets me is the delay at Garmin. The S/W only and the 20X ship in 1 to 3 days. The 10X now shows 1 to 3 weeks. I think the first time I looked it was 1 to 4 weeks.

Glad I did one final price search before I ordered.

Ted
tcassidy
Very few of the internet order houses I've dealt with recently warehouse anything. They seem to share storage locations with a bunch of companies in various locations. These were all Canadian ones though. I don't know if DrivenGPS maintains their own stock or not.


EDIT I just checked. DrivenGPS is the same setup. Headquartered in Everett Washington and shipping from various warehouses.


Terry
laptopgpsworld.com About