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How to force Streets & Trips to follow scenic routes, i.e. Blue Ridge Parkway
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by johnnewhouse
...i was most impressed with the brown bear that was sunbathing in the middle of the road and seemed thoroughly disgusted with me by making him have to move.
Did you ask politely?
mopar400
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Originally Posted by Larry
Hey Lucky Pierre,

You are indeed lucky!

Getting Streets & Trips to follow the Blue Ridge Pkwy is no easy task however Streets & Trips 2010 makes it easy so long as you know a couple of tips.

  1. Create your start and end points and generate directions
  2. Zoom in and follow the route - when it exits the desired route create a small but strategic 'avoid area' to block the route from going that way.
    [Note: avoid areas need to include an intersection so pick the first one you come to along the erroneous route.]
  3. In Microsoft Streets & Trips 2010 the route is automatically regenerated after you change it by adding an avoid area - this saves you much time.
  4. After the route is re-generated the map will zoom out to display the entire route (which is not what you really want in this case) so to get back to the place you were simply press Alt+ left arrow.
  5. Go back to step 2 and continue until you are done.
Sure..it is a bit tedious but more therapeutic than a game of Sudoku if you ask me.

Attached is the entire Blue Ridge Pkwy drive without using any extra waypoints. I tossed in the locations of the tunnels for good measure. Hope this helps.

I understand the avoid area.
But how would I show those on Larry's routing so I can better understand what he did?
I'm fairly new with Streets & Trips and until I read this posting I did not even know about the avoid option.
My Point...Exactly
Hi Mopar -

If you zoom in on Larry's route, you'll see the avoid area's in yellow. See image:

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mopar400
Got it.
Thanks

Guess I did not zoom in close enough to see them.
My Point...Exactly
Larry did an ARTFUL job of putting those avoid areas in there!
flannigan
Larry:
Thanks for posting your Streets file with the Blue Ridge waypoints. I saved a copy and it helped me with our planned trip. We were going to take the trip at the end of this summer but cancelled because we moved into a senior retirement center, here in St. Louis, MO. We hope to take the trip sometime in late Spring.
If you don't mind, I would like to ask you a couple of questions. We intend to take 4-5 days or more to drive it. We will be reversing the trip you have. I assume you would be able to average about 45 mph ? If so, we would probably plan to stop at a motel every 130-160 miles. If you have any comments as to "when" to go next spring, what we can expect for an average driving speed, etc., or any other comment, I would appreciate hearing from you.
Regards,
Mike Flannigan
SteveJonesMO
Try getting a route to stay on Hwy 50 from Ocean City MD to Sacramento, CA

The "avoid area" thing, (though very slick if done a la Larry) doesn't work for me, because once I'm done imagineering my route in S&T it moves on to gpx for it's next phase of life.

I've always thought it would be cool if highway numbers or official scenic or historical routes were selectable or highlightable as most rivers and lakes are. That would make it easier to at least see it so that a route could be constructed to follow it.
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by SteveJonesMO
Try getting a route to stay on Hwy 50 from Ocean City MD to Sacramento, CA

The "avoid area" thing, (though very slick if done a la Larry) doesn't work for me, because once I'm done imagineering my route in S&T it moves on to gpx for it's next phase of life.

I've always thought it would be cool if highway numbers or official scenic or historical routes were selectable or highlightable as most rivers and lakes are. That would make it easier to at least see it so that a route could be constructed to follow it.
Yes, as far as I can tell avoid areas are a feature of S&T only and do not export via GPX files. Therefore, you must have waypoints or pushpins on your route if you want to create a GPX file.

And I like the idea of being able to specify highway numbers. I note on the other hand that you can do a search in Find [ctrl-F] for "US-50" and you will get lots of hits. I suppose you can drop a Stop on each of these hits and let Route planner do its thing.
Larry
Mike - if you have questions about how to create such a map file then I might be one of many of the suitable resources for your questions. However, I have never actually traveled the Blue Ridge Parkway so cannot comment on when to go or how long it would take. Hopefully, someone else on this forum has some experiential knowledge of this area.

SpadesFlush - you are correct in stating that the carefully placed "avoid areas" are left behind in the GPX export as they are a S&T thing and not supported by that format.
My Point...Exactly
Might I humbly suggest SteveJonesMO that you consider just running the trip on Streets and Trips? Buy or create a mount if the passenger seat is occupied. For a trip like that, you'll probably bring your laptop along anyway.
flannigan
Larry:

Thanks ! I assumed you had traveled it.

Anyway, I learned a valuable tool with the avoidance of areas. I'm a little embarassed that I haven't done this before after all these years.

Thanks again.

Mike Flannigan
SpadesFlush
I have driven part of the BRP but it was many years ago and out of season. There were stretches where one could do a 'respectable' speed but I would think a 45 mph average would be hard to maintain, particularly if you wanted to see anything. Remember, Mike, if it is late enough in the Spring that everything is beautiful, you won't be the only ones there and you, too, will want to stop occasionally. Finally, different segments will mandate different speeds.

Combining what you can learn from the internet and what information S&T provides along with S&T route-planning capabilities, you should be able to create a route that balances your various objectives.
SteveJonesMO
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Originally Posted by My Point...Exactly
Might I humbly suggest SteveJonesMO that you consider just running the trip on Streets and Trips? Buy or create a mount if the passenger seat is occupied. For a trip like that, you'll probably bring your laptop along anyway.
I'm a little tight on space:



Not to mention that the laptop would need to be weatherproof.

My Point...Exactly
Ooh - I fell into that one didn't I? :rofl"

Yeah - it'll be a bit till the heads up visor display will be available.
flannigan
SpadesFlush:

Thanks for that. Maybe I should drop it down to 40-35 mph average. I appreciate your comment as I don't want to drive more than 4-5 hours a day.
Regards,
Mike Flannigan
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