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MarineChief
Hello,
I've searched thru the threads, and I am still unable to open previous versions of .est files with Microsoft Streets and Trips 2010 version. Is there something I need to change on settings?

I am glad that Kathlene (in another article) could open and change her 2004 files. However I can NOT open any of my saved 2005 version map files in the 2010 version. I also could not download or open any of the attached files in the forum blog related to reading old files (was going to try and open a 2004 version but could neither open or save the file to disk).

ANY help is welcome as I have 40 map files that I have used to document our trips to show routes traveled. I would really like to keep these files as much time was taken to "correct" the route from what MS Streets & Trips 2005 was suggesting as the route.

Dave
tcassidy
I just tried a quick test on another computer which has both 2004 and 2010. I created a short test route with S&T 2004 and it opened fine in S&T 2010. Could you attach one of the S&T 2005 est files you are experiencing problems with opening in S&T 2010 so we could try it?

Terry
tcassidy
I just realized that I had a related problem on that computer recently. When I wished to open an est file, it defaulted to S&T 2004 so gave me a warning message and then quit. I tried the usual method of changing the default program to S&T 2010 but because the file name is the same - Streets.exe - it ignored my request. I had to change the name of Streets.exe in the S&T 2004 folder temporarily, change the default est handler and then restore the changed file name. Now it opens est files in S&T 2010 by default.

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Dave, welcome to the forums. Could you tell us what exactly happens when you try to open one of these older files? Do you get a warning message? Also, could you describe the steps you go through in your attempt to open these files?
MarineChief
Thanks to all for the quick replies - This is something that (favorably) impressed me about this group and webpage service.

Marvin:

I dumped S&T2005 before I installed Streets & Trips 2010 (from the downloaded trail version). Since I no longer have S&T05 installed I haven't tried to cut & paste (as found in another thread). When starting from explorer - I can double-click on anyone of the map files located in the folder there and receive the following message:

This file was created with an older version of the map. Before you can open this file, your records must be matched to the updated map. Click OK to match the records and open the file. -- Click on OK (of course) and:

Failed to open document - followed by the Streets & Trips program closing.

Alternately I have also tried by first opening S&T10, then File-Open, and pick any map file. This method also results with receiving the same messages as above (only S&T remains open at the default location).


With this (and a few other minor problems) I'm actually pondering the total wipeout and reformat of my hard drive since I have a partition (to originally dedicate it solely to and separate the OS from programs and data) that I can no longer work around (Windows upgrades have consumed too much room and my C: drive is now short on room - therefore the reason for dumping S&T05, plus many other progams I don't often use). Maybe a complete reload will solve my problems in the long, long, long run (going to take seemingly forever to reload OS, updates, programs & files).

Dave
tcassidy
Go to your windows folder and delete any file that is blue and starts with $NT. These are the update uninstall files and take up space you can free up. You are unlikely to ever need them and there can be many of them.

Terry
MarineChief
Thanks for the tip Terry:

I checked for the $NT files and found nothing blue AND with $NT. I regularly run ccleaner program to clean out temps, cookies, etc. Anything I found using Vista search for $NT resulted in only 8MB total file space - not enough to make a visible difference.

On a different note -- I forgat to upload some test files. Here are two that I know worked with 2005 S&T and were viewed before I need to dump 2007 to load in 2010 (ran out of room to install - even thought I was installing on D: drive with 80-GB free space - S&T wouldn't let me continue untill I dumped programs and files from C: drive). Go figure ???
Attached Files
File Type: est Trip-2010 Jul-Aug.est (364.0 KB)
File Type: est Texas Tour (3-07).est (198.5 KB)
tcassidy
I get the message you said but each file opened fine with S&T 2010. It definitely could be a space problem though.

Terry
Attached Files
File Type: est Texas%20Tour%20(3-07)[1].est (208.0 KB)
File Type: est Trip-2010%20Jul-Aug[1].est (208.0 KB)
Marvin Hlavac
The files open just fine here, too. It is always a good idea to keep back up copies of important files, especially before you convert them to a new version.
tcassidy
Just save them in S&T 2010 with a new name or a different folder, preferably not on your C: drive.

All installation need some space on the o/s drive. The fact that S&T was complaining suggests you don't have much. Do you clean your browser cache regularly? It can be a real hog. Could it be that the partition needs defragging?

Terry
MarineChief
Thanks to ALL for the help - and really FAST replies !!!!
Especially to Marvin, Terry & Larry -- GREAT KUDOS to you.

I Re-Installed ST2010.exe and this time was able to open ALL of the files. YEA !!!
I did notice that ST2010 wanted to (and allowed to) install MS Access data base. Maybe this was the missing critical part (although I already have MS Office WITH Access installed ??).

To Terry - I keep minimal info on the computer, Cache, Temps, Cookies, History ETC. are all routinely removed to keep security tighter and computer cleaner. I feel that I will have to reformat though - I can't justify a $70 program for one-time use to merge the two virtual drives and remove the partition. All the freeware files that I've seen are trial or demo programs that will show what they "can do" but will not do it until the program is purchased. So... easiest (lowest cost - albeit longer time involved) is to reformat and start clean. One big benefit is ALL trash and clutter from ANY former program will be removed, registry will be new, etc, etc.

Y'all can consider this case CLOSED since the reinstall seemed to solve the problem.
Dave
tcassidy
Glad you got that sorted!

Even if you used a program to remove the partition, any program installed on the second partition would no longer work. If you want to spend money get something that can clone your drive to a larger disk. The partitons would automatically be larger then.

You will be pleased to know that partition sizes can be adjusted using only the o/s in Windows 7.

Terry
Ken in Regina
Hey Dave,

The case isn't closed until all the problems are solved. Here's the answer to your repartitioning problem.

EASEUS FREE Partition Manager Software: Free Partition Magic alternative for Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7 and Server 2000/2003/2008 Hard Drive partitions.

The home edition is free and it works like a charm.

...ken...
taoyue
You can adjust partition sizes in Vista, too. Right-click Computer, Manage, then select Disk Management under "Storage".

When there is a Microsoft alternative that is built-into Windows, I would be very wary of using a third-party software package, unless it were markedly superior. Of course, if you don't have enough space to copy off all the files, then you may need something more complicated.
MarineChief
Ken: I've tried for the past three days to download the EASEUS file with ABSOLUTELY no luck. I have tried to save it to disk, have tried Save Target As..., and have tried just to Open the file. NONE of these methods have worked for me (for some really unknown reason). I tried downloads from four of the six listed site - each with the same (non) result. Each time the file LOOKS like it is being saved - the byte amount increases and it takes upwards of five minutes to (supposedly) download the epm.zip file. However, when I go the the folder the file is NOT there. Even if I use Recent Items (from the Vista Start button) and right-click to goto Open Folder Location.. I get a message that says missing shortcut, windows is searching for... , followed by The file has been renamed or moved...
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