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Can Streets & Trips tell travel time from A to B?
lorel
Can Microsoft Streets & Trips be used as a timer to time how long it goes from point A to point B?

Thanks
Lorel
bushpilot
S&T ESTIMATES the travel time between points.

S&T "predicts" or estimates the ETA or time remaining before the next
direction change or poi.

S&T does not have a stopwatch or elapsed time option, nor does it have a
"time moving" or "time stopped" mode, even when connected to a GPS antenna.

Most GPS units collect, display & separate that data.
Marvin Hlavac
Hi Lorel, and welcome to the forum. As Bushpilot above said, the A to B details are in Streets & Trips, and this is a very basic info that any mapping software will give you.

If your trips consist of multiple stops, you may find the following reading useful: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/2316-how-get-distances-b-c-c-d-etc-microsoft-streets-trips (Don't get mislead by the title. The topic does deal with the travel TIME, not just the DISTANCE.)
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Hi Lorel, and welcome to the forum. As Bushpilot above said, the A to B details are in Streets & Trips, and this is a very basic info that any mapping software will give you.

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But also as Bushpilot said, it is computed, projected time parameters based upon data base information with regard to distance, road type, and certain undisclosed assumptions about driving speeds.

If you are after a time record of traveled segments, S&T will not give it to you.
Ken in Regina
SpadesFlush and Bushpilot are correct. Some other nav programs do have a "trip computer" function that will give you a number of pieces of information: distance traveled, time moving, time stopped, etc. Some will have an "odometer" and a "trip meter" so you can have the odometer give you the overall travel distance and the trip meter can be reset to measure portions of the trip.

Here's an example of Garmin Mobile PC's trip computer display and the reset controls.

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Marvin Hlavac
SpadesFlush, thanks for correcting me. I re-read Lorel's question, and now I see I answered it from a wrong angle...
Marvin Hlavac
Perhaps the GPS trail feature in Streets & Trips could be used. Then the .GPX could be exported, and the needed info extracted from there...
t1d
I think XPort's sister program, Compass, does give that info... They're freebies... Search this forum for info and links for them... We do have some good threads about them... Seems like I remember trip log and odometer features...
Larry
:rofl"I read the title of this thread wrong but just incase others did the same....

Q: Can S&T tell time-travel?
A: No. Time travel is not a feature of S&T at this time.
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Perhaps the GPS trail feature in Streets & Trips could be used. Then the .GPX could be exported, and the needed info extracted from there...
Ah, yes, I have computed speed for short GPS-trailed segments by counting the dots representing each GPS data-download point and then using that count against the distance of a given segment to calculate the speed. The number of dots was equal to the number of seconds, obviously, at 1Hz. I did this with the old-style GPS trail; I do not know if it still is possible with the new (post-2010) style GPS trail.

I do NOT recommend doing this; it is not really practical for anything over a mile or so. I cannot recall even why I did it except perhaps to satisfy my curiosity.
Marvin Hlavac
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Originally Posted by Larry
Time travel is not a feature of S&T at this time.
Then we should put it high on the wish list! :rofl"

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Originally Posted by SpadesFlush
I did this with the old-style GPS trail; I do not know if it still is possible with the new (post-2010) style GPS trail
I haven't played much with the new GPS trail and the new GPX export either, but I think the GPX file would contain time data, so after traveling from A to B, you would just look at the time difference between the start and the end of the GPS trail.
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Then we should put it high on the wish list! ....
I agree. Time sensitivity and time management capabilities would be an area of welcome improvement for S&T. In addition to the need that Lorel's question implies (a legitimate one in my view), I would like to see the time factor being taken into consideration for things like navigation. Some while ago, I believe I mentioned I would like to have the navigation pane show how I am doing against the trip's planned time in addition to the distance data that is provided. Or, rather, in PLACE of some of the distance data that I, and perhaps others, regard as nearly useless, such as as-the-crow-flies distance to the end of the trip.

As anyone knows who uses S&T for over-the-road navigation, time data does not show in the navigation pane. The only way you can see how you are doing against the clock is to switch out of navigation mode and go the Driving Directions to get that info. This is quite awkward to do and, if one is both driving and navigating, it is out of the question without stopping.
Marvin Hlavac
100% agreed. I was only replying to Larry's joke:

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Originally Posted by Larry
Time travel is not a feature of S&T at this time.
I know for a fact that at the present time (likely due to the current economic situation), Microsoft will NOT spend any R&D resources on time travel.
SpadesFlush
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
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I know for a fact that at the present time (likely due to the current economic situation), Microsoft will NOT spend any R&D resources on time travel.
That implies we cannot expect much in the way of enhancements in Streets & Trips 2011.
Marvin Hlavac
Not necessarily, but a source who wishes to stay anonymous has confirmed that Microsoft will not go into the time travel business at this time. It's just too difficult for their R&D people at the moment. (Perhaps in the next century )

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Time travel is the concept of moving between different points in time in a manner analogous to moving between different points in space, either sending objects (or in some cases just information) backwards in time to some moment before the present, or sending objects forward from the present to the future without the need to experience the intervening period (at least not at the normal rate).

Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox), as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.
More on time travel: Time travel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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