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Can Streets & Trips run on an iPad?
jmccollum
Will Streets & Trips run on an iPad? Is the internal GPS receiver on the iPad compatible with S&T?
malaki86
Streets & Trips is a Windows program. So, unless you can run Microsoft Windows operating system on your iPad, the answer is no.
jmccollum
Thanks, malaki86. I am well aware that S&T is a Microsoft product intended for the Windows OS. My question was have either the Mac folks or the M/S folks made any effort to create a compatible version for the iPad....or as you state the question; will the iPad run the Windows OS?
Ken in Regina
Never.

Too many things conspiring against it for anything like that to ever happen. Most importantly, Jobs would never allow it in the app store. And the iPad/iOS environment is too tightly controlled for it to be worth it for Microsoft to ever put any resources on developing for it (iOS).

Second, Microsoft is focused on getting tablet manufacturers to create products using Windows 7 (not Windows Phone 7). So Streets&Trips would run pretty much unmodified on a Windows tablet. Another strong reason not to waste resources trying to completely recode Streets&Trips for iOS.

...ken...
jmccollum
Hi Ken in Regina. Unfortunately, I think you are exactly correct. I suspect it (S&T on iOS) will never happen. I travel with S&T on a laptop and would like the convenience of an iPad. Oh well.... Thanks for your response.
winwaed
Yes it will never happen - despite the inferiority of the built-in Google app's routing.

Too many vested interests. Microsoft have their interests elsewhere (although there is a Bing app for the iPad), and Jobs will never let it anywhere close. The iPad strikes me as an ideal hardware platform for Silverlight (eg. for 3rd party Bing Maps apps?) but we know it will never happen - look at his protectionist bluster over Flash.

Richard
Ken in Regina
Besides which, Silverlight is dead.

...ken...
winwaed
That will be news to Microsoft and a lot of their developers. Most of the Bing Maps development is using the Silverlight control - and NOT the Javascript (aka 'AJAX') control.

Richard
Ken in Regina
Hi Richard,

Re: Silverlight is dead?

10-31-2010 6:24 AM |

Nearly a year ago, Microsoft pulled together a group of reporters for Bing Fall Release event. The highlight of the presentation was a demo showing off some nifty new features in Bing Maps. The problem? All of this stuff required Microsoft’s Silverlight browser plug-in to work. I berated the company for once again pushing users towards a more proprietary web. So today it’s time to laud them, as they seem to be backing away from that strategy.

During last week’s Professional Developers Conference (PDC), ZDNet’s Mary-Jo Foley asked Bob Muglia, Microsoft’s SVP of the Server and Tools Business, why the company failed to highlight Silverlight in a meaningful way this year. His answer was rather surprising.

“Silverlight is our development platform for Windows Phone,” he said. And while he said that the technology has some “sweet spots” for media applications (presumably like Netflix, which uses Silverlight on the web), its role as a vehicle for delivering a cross-platform runtime appears to be over. “Our strategy has shifted,” is how Muglia put it.

Instead, as they made clear during PDC, Microsoft is putting their weight behind HTML5 going forward. Hallelujah.

Microsoft’s new IE9 web browser (which is in public beta testing) will be a big part of this strategy. And presumably, a lot of the things that currently require Silverlight, like some of those nifty Bing Maps features, will move to HTML5 going forward. Again, that’s great news.

So why is Microsoft doing this? It seems that Microsoft sees the writing on the wall. They likely know that’s it’s going to be much harder to make a dent in the new developer world order with Silverlight, which still has a relatively small market penetration and no penetration in mobile, than with HTML5, which is (or shortly will be) everywhere — including all of Apple’s devices.

“HTML is the only true cross platform solution for everything, including (Apple’s) iOS platform,” Muglia told Foley.

This is a very different tone than Muglia had just a year ago, when he and then Microsoft Chief Software Architect Ray Ozzie were out on the circuit drumming up support for Silverlight with hopes that it would become a new de-facto standard like Adobe’s Flash. It’s not clear if Ozzie’s imminent departure from the company has anything to do with this change of tone or vice versa.

Regardless, Silverlight will now be mainly known as the development platform for Windows Phone going forward. In other words, the way to make native apps for those devices. But for just about everything else, it will be HTML5 or bust. And that’s great news for all end users. It’s one less plug-in to download. And it’s another step towards a unified web.
You can read the entire thread here. Other posters add a broader perspective to the question.

The statement that "Silverlight is dead." is, I agree, a bit provocative because it's not really. For what Microsoft calls LOB, or Line of Business, apps it still has value. But for general internet site development it seems clear that HTML5 is going to be the general standard, not a proprietary tool like Silverlight.

The fact that it is proprietary to Microsoft is the real reason you'll never see it on an iPad.

...ken...
winwaed
Thanks - and yes I definitely agree with your last line and Jobs wants to maintain his closed platform (hence the Flash fuss - it is nothing about stability, just simple platform ownership).
However I note that Mono apps are now allowed on the AppStore: This alone makes it a much more attractive platform for developers like myself.

The problem with HTML 5 is that it is still a non-standard. People are talking big things about it, but the W3C are still deciding what is in it.
It should be better than Flash or Silverlight for cross-platform apps, but we shall have to wait and see.
(I'm reminded of VRML which we never hear of now; and the whole HTML/CSS mess which we currently live in)

Richard
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