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Ken in Cape Breton
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Originally Posted by mortaci
Has anyone tried this in their boat? Does it show your boat position on the lake or river?
Mortaci
Yes, it will show you your position on a map, no matter where you are, land or water. Topo maps are particularly good for giving accurate shorelines of bodies of water.

BUT, boats normally use charts, not maps, the difference being that charts show the depth of the water, navigation aids, submerged rocks, etc. while maps do not. If you don't care about hitting submerged rocks or reefs or whatever you're good to go.

Garmin no longer makes charts that can be loaded into a computer for use in Garmin nRoute or Garmin Mobile PC and when they did they would only display properly in nRoute, not in Mobile PC.

Edit: Correction: As Terry points out below, Garmin does make several different freshwater lake products, the Inland Lakes series for the US and Canada and the LakeMaster series for the American mid west. I had forgotten about these as I don't use them, living on the Atlantic coast.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=13484#mapTab

Click on "View additional maps for this product" and scroll down to the "On the Water" section.
tcassidy
It will show your position anywhere on earth. The difficulty is obtaining mapping data for lakes and rivers in your area. Although Garmin does sell lake map data for many North America locations, I suspect it might not be suitable for use with Mobile PC.

Terry
tcassidy
I take that back. Garmin Inland Lakes is compatible with Mobile PC. If you are considering Mobile PC for this use, make sure you get the version which includes a GPS (USB 20x or BT 20x). That will allow you to unlock the lake map products to it. The lake maps do cost extra though.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1404&pvID=2691

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Updated Garmin Mobile PC version 5.00.70

Discussion here: Garmin Mobile PC 5.00.70 (February 19, 2010)
Marvin Hlavac
The new 5.00.70 version has a know issue that is being discussed here: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/3270-garmin-mobile-pc-5-00-70-randomly-crashing-while-driving

Garmin is aware of it:

Quote:
Originally Posted by malaki86
I spoke with Garmin's tech support this morning about the new update crashing. They are aware of the issue and have duplicated in-house. So, they know what's causing it. They said they were already working on a new update for it, which should be out soon because it is a major problem.
jrshall
Hi,

I'm new to the forum, but have been using it to research various GPS tools for my Asus Eee PC t91mt. I currently have an older Garmin Nuvi, but want to use the PC in my RV.

Reading through this thread, I saw mention of a free trial version of Mobile PC, but can't find it on the Garmin website. Can someone direct me to it? Their is also mention of using Mapsource. I downloaded it from Garmin, but when I tried to install, it said it couldn't find an earlier version installed. I guess I downloaded an upgrade. Once again, can someone please give me some direction?

Thanks, Jerry
tcassidy
The download of MapSource will only install on a computer that already has MapSource on it. Fortunately, you can install Garmin BaseCamp, install MapSource, and then remove BaseCamp (or not).
BaseCamp

MapSource does not have any built in maps though and can't use the one on your Nuvi (or the Mobile PC one) so it is not valuable unless you already have maps for your area in the correct format.

Terry
jrshall
Thanks Terry,

So, as I understand it, if I get Mobile PC, I can use it for navigation. But for trip planning or adding poi's I need to use MapSource. And to use MapSource I need to get maps someplace.

I currently have street atlas 2008, which I don't care for, and ms s&t 2010, which is OK for trip planning, but doesn't have a great nav interface. I was hoping to be able to use s&t for trip planning and import to mobile pc for nav. Maybe this isn't the best plan.

Btw, any lead on a trial version of Mobile PC?

Jerry
tcassidy
You can plan trips in Mobile PC but S&T is easier. S&T 2010 can save gpx trip files but those are not directly usable in Mobile PC. I can't see why you couldn't open them in MapSource even without a map and transfer the routes, waypoints to Mobile PC from there though.

terry
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
The download of MapSource will only install on a computer that already has MapSource on it. Fortunately, you can install Garmin BaseCamp, install MapSource, and then remove BaseCamp (or not).
BaseCamp

MapSource does not have any built in maps though and can't use the one on your Nuvi (or the Mobile PC one) so it is not valuable unless you already have maps for your area in the correct format.

Terry
I think Basecamp can use the map on the Nuvi. It costs nothing but the download time to find out. And if you need to download it first in order to install Mapsource anyway, you might as well try it.

...ken...
Marvin Hlavac
Quote:
Btw, any lead on a trial version of Mobile PC?

Jerry
Jerry, Garmin doesn't offer trial of Mobile PC. Garmin only offers a downloadable software update, but that is NOT meant to be a trial.
tcassidy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
I think Basecamp can use the map on the Nuvi. It costs nothing but the download time to find out. And if you need to download it first in order to install Mapsource anyway, you might as well try it.

...ken...
Certainly worth a try but all I see in BaseCamp on this XP computer is Topo Canada v4 and Backroad Mapbook. As this computer has a wide selection of maps available to MapSource, I have no idea how BaseCamp decides which ones it can use.

Terry
Ken in Regina
Okay, I just went out to the car and brought in my Nuvi 765T. I connected it to the computer. Then I ran Basecamp. Basecamp shows the Nuvi in the "Devices" list in the left pane.

It also lists the preloaded maps on the Nuvi.

It adds a Map Properties pane (lower left) with all the properties of the preloaded maps.

If you right-click on the map name under the Nuvi in the Devices list at the left you will get a selection to "Show Map".

That's as far as I can go because I already have that mapset on the computer and Basecamp sees it, too. So I get an error when I try to Show Map from the Nuvi.

Of course I can't guarantee that every device will work this way but it looks like if you connect a device with preloaded maps Basecamp can display them. I have seen reports from others that if you connect a device with a Garmin SD card map product inserted Basecamp will also allow you to display that map.

...ken...
tcassidy
You're right. My BaseCamp copy was severely out of date. I now get the complete list of installed maps. However the 'Show Map' is greyed out for the Nuvi 5000.

Terry
Ken in Regina
So it appears there is probably some functionality needed on the device in order to use the maps in Basecamp as opposed to just displaying the map properties.

Or..... ??? I wonder if the problem is that Basecamp won't use the device maps if the same maps are already available on the PC?? That's the case for me.

Yes, if you had a fairly old version of Basecamp there are maps it would not see. Now it will see anything that Mapsource can see.

...ken...
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