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Planning Fuel Stops en-route
My Point...Exactly
Short 3.5 minute video shows one technique for planning fuel stops based on the range of fuel you have in your tank(s). Example is based on truckers, but applies to all Streets and Trips users. See video here.
Wayne in Red Deer
That is a great tip, thanks for sharing.

Wayne
SpadesFlush
Very neat and compact video; like all your videos it is very well done.

FWIW, I use a slightly different technique. Once I have developed a Start to End route, I do a "Find nearby places" (with the pushpin sets I am interested in active - not hidden), selecting "around route" in the "Around" box with a small distance, maybe 0.5 miles.

This will narrow things down quite a bit and I can see where, say, the closest refueling posibilities are. Then, I select the one I want and add it to the route. 600 miles on a tank is out of the question for my guzzlers; that would probably require two stops for me so this technique is important.
My Point...Exactly
Funny thing Spades - my original intent for this video was to use your defined technique - searching along the route. But in writing it up, I ended up making the change to use the directions pane...for no other reason than fact that I recognized there were a few different ways to skin the cat.

I think my next video WILL be on the use of the 'search along the route' feature - because I also find it a very useful tool. Maybe do it on finding a restaurant no more than a couple of tenths of a mile off the highway....we'll see.

Thanks for the kind words on the videos!
SpadesFlush
Well, if you are thinking about a new video with a search like that, you might want to consider the following.

If you are doing the kind of search that the video shows (looking for a particular truck stop brand), you may want to refine the search so that you get the most relevant possible hits. So, in your example in the video, once you have calculated an initial route and double-clicked on the driving instruction, you can go to find nearby places and click "Refresh" and S&T will find all those unhidden pushpins and built-in POIs that are in active (or checked) categories and are within you seach distance criteria.

If you pick another instruction and Refresh, you will get a new population in the "Find nearby places" pane to the left. This can be useful in finding the place to eat as well as where to refuel, assuming you do not want to eat at the Pilot TS of your example. This is made easy by the fact that the "Find nearby places" pane "Around" box automatically focuses on the selected driving instruction, thereby saving you a few steps. You can then select the POI(s) in the pane to add it (them) to the route.
My Point...Exactly
Great tip Spades! I agree that using find nearby places with the directions pane is a quick way to find exactly what you're looking for at a specific point in a trip.

I do think worthy of a video! Thanks for the feedback!
SpadesFlush
Thanks. But here's another thought.

Although I do not drive a big rig, I assume such drivers have the same problem I do in managing refueling stops: it can be very difficult to anticipate correctly the range the fuel on board provides. "Actual mileage will vary" and all that. Therefore, I think it is better to plan a trip that allows for a maximum refueling range and a minimum. S&T can help you do that.

So, in your video example, let's say that you are confident that your range is between 475 and 650 miles but you won't know for sure until you get at least half-way through the tank. What I would suggest is that you can look at the driving directions as in the video and pick a spot along the route that is slightly over 475 miles from the start and make that a route stop in the usual way. If you want to be particularly anal, you can rename that stop "min." Repeat for something slightly less than 650 miles and perhaps rename that stop as "max."

Now go the "Find nearby places" pane and select "min to max" in the "Around" box and Refresh. This will now populate your FNP pane with only possibilities in this segment of the trip. I would then select a refueling stop near "min" and make that a route stop and then another near "max" and make that a route stop and recalculate the route. Optionally, you can now delete "min" and "max" as they have served their purpose.

Now, as you proceed along your route plan and you determine that the further refueling stop is safely doable, you can either delete the earlier stop and recalculate or it ignore it and zoom right by it.

See the illustrative EST file and a screenshot showing the FNP pane and the min-max route segment.
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My Point...Exactly
This is a great tip Spades and definately worth a quick vid in my opinion. What I like about this feature is the ability to search a stretch of your route of travel based on travel time. I'm thinking specifically about finding a hotel after I've spent a particular amount of time on the road.

Look for it next month. I'll make sure to plug you and LaptopGPS for the inspiration!
SpadesFlush
Cool! I am sure your video explanation will be superior to anything I can muster up.

And, yes, it certainly does not have to be just refueling. BTW, have you ever seen any blatter-oriented POI sets? I guess that would be X-rated.
My Point...Exactly
Blatter - Or Bladder?

When travelling for sales ... I always had the potty spots marked on my map! Typically two hours after the Dunkin Donuts (also marked on my map)
Marvin Hlavac
Keith, that's what I call good trip planning!

My Point...Exactly
Here's the video on 'Searching along a section of your route'.

Thanks for the tip Spades! Let me know what you think.
MisterMoonlight
As usual, well done!
SpadesFlush
The video looks Great, Keith, well done! And thanks for the acknowledgement at the end. I like the idea of high-lighting the possible stops; that is not something I had thought of.

My approach is slightly cruder: I add the candidate stops to the route but I just zoom right by the ones I don't need without deleting them. S&T will object momentarily but then concede defeat and resume providing directions. This allows me to keep moving without the fuss of pulling over to recalculate the route.

For instance, my Principal Passenger can suddenly and unpredictably require a 'rest break' and prefers brick and mortar accomodations to a few scraggly bushes (oddly enough). Therefore, I load up my route with a lot of rest stops (taken from a POI data base), far more than even she would care to visit, and just fly by the redundant ones. This also has the advantage of being able to advise Ms. Principal Passenger that the next rest stop is in xx.x miles, with a on-screen count-down, to provide a sense of what must be endured and to gain clearance to skip the next rest area, if physiologically possible. Additionally, I can consult the Driving Directions to provide an outlook on when we might approach the successive rest areas which can be factored into the complicated amalgam that will result in a navigational decision that can be executed by the lowly pilot.

But I don't think you want to produce a video of that little scenario even though such a technique has a positive impact on the the old systolics and diastolics of everyone in the car.
My Point...Exactly
Thanks Moonlight!

Spades - As an avid coffee drinker - I share your PP's predilection for rest areas I do see the value of ALWAYS knowing where your next pit stop MIGHT be .

Subject makes me think about a 'Radar' feature. I scanned the 'Wishlist' quickly....but didn't see the request. Concept is - you set what you want to be notified about, and at what radius, while you're driving....as soon as the target pops up in your radar - S&T gives audible and visual cue. I'm sure someone must have asked about this....you guys know where a reference to this might be in this forum?
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