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Running BlueCharts in MapSource is it possible?
shallon
The BlueCharts available from Garmin can only be run on Garmin Homeport according to Garmin. I have worked with Garmin Mapsource for years, I find that I can do more with my data on Mapsource than I can on Homeport. Is there a way to make the BlueCharts and Mapsource compatible?
Ken in Regina
There are two versions of Bluecharts. Only one will work with Mapsource. The other requires Homeport. The only thing I can suggest is run Mapsource. If the maps are installed on your computer in one of the standard locations and if it's a version that will work in Mapsource, you will see it in the list of available maps.

...ken...
shallon
It is an older version of Bluecharts, not the G2 version. I have not been able to get the BlueCharts installed onto the computer, they are on a MicroSD chip. I have asked Garmin about this twice thru their phone in Customer Support, they cannot be done.
Ken in Regina
That's a whole different issue. The maps that you buy on microSD cards are not in a format that Mapsource can use.

If you install Basecamp and put the microSD in your card reader you should be able to work with the maps in Basecamp. You may need to give Basecamp a couple minutes to find it and load it.

...ken...
shallon
Yes, I am able to run the BlueCharts on both HomePort and BaseCamp. I have found that I can do more with Mapsource, as far as producing an end product to include in reports. Therefore the desire to run BlueCharts on Mapsource. Garmin says I should be able to duplicate on HomePort what I can do with Mapsource, which to some degree is true but it can be done much more quickly on Mapsource. An example would be to change a group of waypoint symbols or hide/unhide waypoint names. In Mapsource you can do all at once, in HomePort you have to do it one at a time.
tcassidy
The old BlueChart maps were available in 2 formats, one supplied on CD and the other on a memory card matching the device you wished to use them with. The memory card version is already compiled for direct use with a GPS and not compatible with MapSource. The CD version was the uncompiled version of the maps which was usable with MapSource. MapSource could generate a compiled map from the CD version for use with a GPS but the reverse is not possible.

The new Bluechart G2 maps are only available in the compiled format.

Terry
Ken in Regina
The most recent versions of Basecamp do allow for some "group" changes. For instance, you can select a bunch of waypoints and change the symbol for all of them at the same time. You still can't add/change as many things in the waypoint properties in Basecamp for groups of waypoints as you can in Mapsource. But it's getting better.

We keep poking the Basecamp developers and they are ever so slowly getting some of the Mapsource usability into Basecamp.

I can't recall if 3.2 of Basecamp does the group properties changes so you might have to grab the 3.3.03beta to get it. Or wait for the release version of 3.3 which should be out shortly.

...ken...
shallon
Hi Terry. My BlueCharts version is on microSD chip so with your explanation about the CD and Chip versions it makes sense. That would also explain why I can run the map off the Chip but cannot download them to the computer. Thanks
shallon
Hi Ken I just updated to BaseCamp 3.2 this afternoon, have not played with it yet. I do not know why they have to re-invent the wheel all the time, why not have MapSource support everything that either BaseCamp or Homeport support. For marine navigation, I have run Nobeltec for years so that has become my measuring stick.
Ken in Regina
Basecamp was originally created for the Mac to provide similar functions as Mapsource on the PC. As such it's a more "modern" interface. At least in Garmin's opinion. Somewhere along the line they decided to do a Windows version.

When the decision was made to do a Windows Basecamp it seems there was also a decision to put support for the newer generations of devices into Basecamp but not duplicate it in Mapsource. Even though Mapsource continued to get some updates into last year it was mainly bug fixes. Mapsource development was finally stopped officially last year.

The maddening thing is not that they've stopped Mapsource development. It's that many of the features that made it so powerful and so usable were left out of Basecamp. Some were simply overlooked. But many were left out intentionally with the argument that they were simply too difficult for people to learn how to use!! Categories is an example of that.

...ken...
tcassidy
Ken,
Taking that the other way suggests that downloaded updates for products such as the Nuvi will no longer be available in a format readable by MapSource. The advantage to Garmin will be reduced bandwidth and server storage requirements.

Terry
shallon
Garmins 'official' line to me on two different occassions has been that Basemap and Homeport are equal to or better than Mapsource. Todate that has not been my experience. On each occassion, the second time I brought it up, there was silence on the other end, not even spouting of the 'official' line.
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
Ken,
Taking that the other way suggests that downloaded updates for products such as the Nuvi will no longer be available in a format readable by MapSource. The advantage to Garmin will be reduced bandwidth and server storage requirements.

Terry
Let's hope that never happens.

It would be difficult for them to do that right now. The updater downloads the whole thing anyway, and then compiles and transfers to the device. It takes no extra time to store it to the PC because it's already there. And it would not save any download time.

...ken...
Boyd
Well they already have done it, in a sense. If you purchase a map using the download option (as opposed to the lifetime update downloads), it will be a compiled map that is only installed on the GPS itself. In other words, you get the equivalent of a map that is pre-installed on a datacard. It will work in Basecamp when the GPS or card is connected to your computer, but not in Mapsource.

My assumption has been that Garmin just doesn't want to devote the resources to develop two overlapping programs and decided to put all their eggs in the Basecamp basket. I can understand this, since they are facing a shrinking market for PND's in today's world, but it is sort of a shame.

Meanwhile, I've been developing a map with extreme detail (more that Garmin ever envisioned) and the surprise is that it works great in Mapsource. Zooming and panning the map is fast. Basecamp doesn't do as nice a job of rendering the map, and when you zoom out past .5 miles all the detail drops out whereas Mapsource will display everything until you zoom to 3 miles. To be fair, I'm sure Garmin never intended to support this kind of map, but it's still strange that Mapsource handles it so well while Basecamp doesn't.

popej
I just have compared some maps in Mapsource and Basecamp (release version) and can't see any difference in details. You have set Mapsource for highest details, you need to set the same in Basecamp and the results should be comparable. But rendering map in Basecamp is much faster than in Mapsource.
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