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Is Streets & Trips missing a "Route Preview" facility?
msstuser
I familiar with navigation systems (CoPilot, iGuidance, Sygic, nRoute) but new to Streets & Trips.

So I downloaded the trail version of S&T 2011. I quickly built a route using the Route Planner, saved it, started navigation (using the Franson GPSGate simulator), and received the first spoken direction. But I noticed that there doesn't seem to be a "route preview" facility. Is there one hiding somewhere? Every system I mentioned above has such a facility.

Regards,
Jim
Marvin Hlavac
Hi Jim, and welcome to the forum. Are you asking about the "Driving Simulation" feature found in some navigation software? Or, are you asking how to simply view the plotted route in its entirety after you have planned your trip?

P.S. I took the liberty of splitting your message into two individual topics. The other part of your original message can be found here.
msstuser
Marvin,

Thanks for the welcome and quick response.

I am looking for the "Route Preview" facility where I can "drive" the route getting all instructions.

To a lesser degree, simply viewing the route (ie., Directions list) is an alternative but not as effective.

I learned long ago using one of the original Garmin units for autos, that it is important to review a route before actually driving it especially now that I'm driving a 40' RV.

BTW, the other part of my post is far more important to me, restarting nav from where I shutdown.

Regards,
Jim
Marvin Hlavac
Jim, I think the driving simulation feature found in some products is an excellent feature for demonstration purposes. A vendor can this way easily showcase a product at a show. However, I'm not certain if such feature has a practical use for the end user. To "preview" a 30 minute trip would take you 30 minutes, not to mention the time you would have to take to pre-drive a much longer trip.

I would simply plot my route on the map of Streets & Trips, and then, before enabling navigation, view the needed details on the map.
msstuser
Marvin,

Actually all of the systems I have used have a "speed" -sub-feature of the preview allowing you to speed up the preview. Just last night I ran a 1100 mile trip in about an hour occassionally slowing for turns in order to see the lane direction popup. At points along the way on long Interstate stretches I was travelling the route at a simulated 1200MPH. (I can only wish the real trip only took that long although in a past life there were trips that went that fast).

I have found this feature to be of great value in trip planning and review.

Regards,
Jim
Marvin Hlavac
1200MPH would make me dizzy, Jim. :-)

If you like that feature, unfortunately the current S&T version doesn't have it. But S&T is still a program that excels as a trip planner. I'm sure you will like it, just give it a bit longer time to familiarize yourself with its various features. Many RV enthusiasts use it for trip planning, and many of them use it for navigation, too.
msstuser
Marvin,

Don't mis-understand, I am planning to use S&T, at least, to do trip planning and would like to use it for navigation if I can figure out how to resume navigation automatically when I restart S&T.

I can use it just for planning and using GPSBabel or my own code, convert S&T trips to other systems but like any translation, something always gets lost.

I appreciate your interest and offer my thanks.

Regards,
Jim
t1d
Welcome Jim!

Like you, I find it prudent to review routes before I head out. I use S&T and I am a great advocate of the product. I accomplish the route review using the "grab map/scroll" feature.

To view the route in its entirety, after you have the route planner calculate the directions, go to the written directions page and double click on the word "Summary". The map will auto adjust the zoom level to center the total route. I then zoom down to the route starting point and grab/drag the map along the route course.

Reviews of Mobile, AL to Angel Fire, NM might take as much as 30 minutes, including course preference changes and noting POI's. I have used the route simulator in nRoute and truly prefer the grab/drag review method. Changes to the route seem to be more intuitive, because I am already involved in the process and am, therefore, aware of the best way to make changes. And, I become familiar with the route course, which greatly decreases the stress of going somewhere with which I am not accustumed.

For large vehicles, bridge and tunnel heights come into play. You may want to search the forum for what RV'ers, specifically, are using. I seem to recall that there is a program or two that take vehicle size into consideration for routing.
ron4adams
After planning a trip I always scroll through the entire route using the arrow keys. For segments having multiple stops within a short distance I will use the - and = keys to zoom in and out as I please. In this way I will occasionally drag the route to alternative roads or reorder stops according to my personal needs, and also simulate the entire route. Our trips (have used S&T for planning and navigation for the past five years) usually exceed 8000 miles with often 500 or more stops. I really enjoy navigating with this software using my netbook installed (securely of course) on my dash.
msstuser
Thank you 't1d' and 'ron4adams' for the input. I will go off and give this a try.

Regards,
Jim
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