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iPad app for S&T ?
laplaya
I probably am just dreaming about such a thing, and there is probably no way that Microsoft would make their Streets & Trips available in an iPad app. However, I would like to see such a thing, where I can transfer my route that I create on S&T and view it and have it functional for navigation in my car. It is difficult to convince my gf to carry the laptop on her lap so that I can view as needed, but if there was an iPad app, I could mount it on my dash and be able to view my route. Does anyone use their iPad to view their S&T routes. Thanks. Bill
GoneNomad
S&T for iPad? Ha, ha, ha! That's the best one I've heard all day!

You can buy or make a mount for a small notebook, and it will work just the same as an iPad or other tablet. You could even get a touchscreen Windows tablet or notebook if you wanted touchscreen capability, but why bother when you can get this: http://laptops.techfresh.net/dell-inspiron-im101z-3980bk-notebook with many times more power and capacity for $300 and this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7186041&CatId=1285 for $20 more?

Refer to this thread: http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/4808-does-im-getting-ipad
where iPad vs Android tablet vs. Windows tablet vs. Windows small notebook was all hashed out already, with the end result that the guy who wanted to buy an iPad from the Get-Go wound up buying an iPad.

Most people find a way of convincing themselves they need what they want, and what everyone is being told to want right now, is the "new" iPad. Sort of reminds me of how when Apple "invented" the MP3 player, everyone was being told to want an iPod. Funny thing about Apple's "invention" of the MP3 player is, I seem to remember owning an MP3 player years earlier, back when most people were still using Sony Discman or MiniDisc players. I guess that one didn't count though.
tcassidy
It's a waste of time, GoneNomad. Everyone thinks an iPad can do everything but toast bread (coming next year). And if it can't, the problem must be with the software!

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
iPad has a very attractive and practical form factor. It's light weight, slim, small enough to carry with you everywhere you go. The only two problems I'd have with it is that it is 1. underpowered, and 2. it uses a non-Windows operating system.

If a manufacturer comes out with a tablet of the same (or very similar) for factor running Windows 8, I would have hard time resisting buying one (even though I'm not in market for a new computer right now).
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
iPad has a very attractive and practical form factor. It's light weight, slim, small enough to carry with you everywhere you go.
So is the $300 Dell Notebook I referenced, and it's far more powerful, for about half the price.
tcassidy
Your aiming at the wrong audience GN. Marvin is already on his second convertible laptop! I know because he introduced me to my first!

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
I'm currently using Fujitsu T4310 tablet convertible. I'm happy with its performance. The size is OK, but still I wonder if something smaller, lighter, and thinner could still provide the same functionality and power. Hopefully Windows 8 will prompt manufacturers to innovate a bit more.

But to return to Laplaya's original question, I don't think MS would release S&T for a non-Windows platform. However, you could plan a trip on your Windows computer, and then export GPX file from S&T. GPX files are importable by various navigation products.
winwaed
I actually have an iPad here. There is a "Bing" app for it although I haven't used it for a while. (as an aside, echoing the MP3 comments; strange how people thought "Bing" was a bad name, but two years later Apple's "Ping" was cool...).

The iPad is good at many things, but it is awful at others (there's a reason I'm not typing this on an iPad). Map viewing can work well (albeit glacially when on 3G and without Wifi), but the built-in (google/OSM based) map app has a very poor navigation interface. Laughably so. Do you really want to press "Next" once you have completed a direction? Also typing in any text gets old very quickly.

There are many map apps on the AppStore but I haven't seen any that come anywhere close to a basic routing engine. The best is the standard one. The map apps I have installed and kept are those with interesting data - eg. historical maps, geophysical maps, geological maps, and Wundermap (Wunderground's weather appp)
malaki86
Have you checked out CoPilot? I *think* they even have a free version now.
SpadesFlush
I have an ancient (5 years old) Lenovo X60 which is also a 'convertible' tablet format. I love it. The screen is a good compromise between compact size and legibility. It is somewhat responsive to finger touch but is really better with the included stylus. I just replaced the HD with an SSD of twice the capacity (I was maxxed out on the HD) and it is even better now: much cooler in operation, faster, and more shock-resistant.

My wife has an IPad which is perfect for her but it doesn't tempt me.

As much as I like the Lenovo generally, I do not like it in the car. Too big. That's where my Viliv S5 UMPC comes into its own. I don't think an IPad would be more appealing for that environment even with an S&T app so long as I have my S5.

But, at the end of the day, this is very much a matter of personal preference. I fully respect Malaki's and GoneNomad's and others choices but I know what I like.
GoneNomad
BTW, the Dell Inspiron iM101z-3980BK 11.6" Notebook I ref'd. earlier has built-in WiMax, which (with a subscription) provides access to Clear's 4G WiMax network. FWIW, most of Sprint's 4G network is (or was) actually Clear's 4G WiMax network, but I believe Sprint is transitioning to an LTE network similar to Verison's.
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by winwaed
There are many map apps on the AppStore but I haven't seen any that come anywhere close to a basic routing engine.
Hi Richard,

Garmin has an app for the Apple that loads standard Garmin maps onto the device so you do not need a data connection. It is the functional equivalent to a Nuvi, which is to say a pretty darn fine "routing engine".

I've got ALK Copilot on my Android phone and it has the same benefits: maps loaded on the device and a very good routing engine. I'm pretty sure they have an app for Apple, too.

Both apps are the equivalent of a personal navigation device like TomTom or Garmin Nuvi so you won't get the trip planning features of Streets & Trips. But both are w-a-y better than just a "basic routing engine".

...ken...
winwaed
Thanks Ken & malaki. I'll have a look at CoPilot the Garmin app.

Yes downloading the maps on-the-fly as per the standard apple map app isn't really very viable, although the traffic information can be useful (when it loads in time before the critical junction decision has to be made!).
Ken in Regina
Both the Garmin and ALK apps have live traffic options available. You just need to have a data connection operating (live traffic data is a very small amount compared to having to constantly download maps). If they work like the live traffic option on a Garmin Nuvi, they will give you an on-screen visual alert of some sort and the section of the route that is affected will be highlighted.

...ken...
malaki86
The Live Traffic is an addon for $9.99 per year. There's a 2 week trial for it, as well. You can set a limit as to how much 'delay' will prompt CoPilot to alert you about. Say you set it for a 15 minute delay, when it shows traffic is delayed 18 mins or so, it'll pop-up, and give you the option of avoiding that section of highway.

You can also set it for how far to look ahead for the delay. I usually use 60 miles, so I have plenty of notice.

It displays on the map itself (when using a 2D view) and also shows a bar graph on the side of the map as well.
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