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tcassidy
I installed MRC on my Surface 3 Win 10 tablet and tried it with CNNA NT2016.2 as that is what I had on this tablet. It took a while but was successful. The result showed in nRoute. I left the TYP file alone as the only time I have seen problems is with non Garmin maps.

Terry
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tcassidy
So I was wrong about the TYP file. I noticed the grey outline for the community was wrong so I tried again. I deleted the existing version MRC had created using GMTK as suggested (There will be 2 versions of the file in GMTK; make sure to delete only the one with the green box!) and ran MRC again. This time I checked the TYP box.

Terry
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GoneNomad
Pardon me for drifting off-topic... but evidently Garmin nRoute, a program from a decade ago, not only runs on Windows 10? and it is able receive location data from a BT GPS receiver (using GPSReverse I assume)?
tcassidy
Yes, nRoute runs on Win 10 but is not finger friendly. It will use a Garmin BT receiver such as the GPS10x directly assuming the maps are unlocked to that receiver. It will also work with any GPS receiver that can be seen by GPS Gate using a Garmin map unlocked to any program as GPS Gate blocks nRoute's ability to query the GPS.

In the previous tests, I was using a Garmin GLO BT GPS and GPS Gate.

Terry
tcassidy
nRoute does not have built in BT capabilities but can use COM ports created by Windows BT. The screen shot below is nRoute using a Garmin 10x BT GPS via a Windows BT created COM port. No GPS Gate involved.

Terry
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Ken in Regina
Just to emphasize what Terry said, nRoute is using the Bluetooth receiver via a virtual COM port from GPSGate which is using the Bluetooth stack directly. It is not using a location sensor (eg. no need for GPSReverse).

EDIT: Ooops, Terry clarified as I was typing. So you have two answers; both are correct.

...ken...
tcassidy
Sorry I forgot what GPSRevese was. I'll try it on my ASUS which has a GPS sensor but I know GPS Gate will need to be involved as nRoute requires a Garmin formatted signal that a GPS sensor will not provide.

Terry
tcassidy
Also, just to show that the map must be unlocked to the Garmin GPS if you don't use GPS Gate. I have another 10x that is not associated with this map and this is what I get.

Terry
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tcassidy
Not as easy as I had hoped. GPSReverse installed OK and GPS Gate shows a green icon. However I have run into an old problem with GPS Gate output ports I will have to resolve.

Terry
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tcassidy
Had to disable Secure Boot to resolve that. Anyway, I have nRoute running from the internal sensors on my ASUS. Via GPSReverse and GPS Gate. A pretty klutzy way to run an old program that would be hard put to compete with the free built in navigation program included with Win 10.

Terry
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GoneNomad
Thanks guys. That last part ("...an old program that would be hard put to compete with the free built in navigation program included with Win 10") is the answer to what my next question would have been. Thanks again.
tcassidy
Yes but...the free navigation program that comes with Win 10 requires an internal location sensor (unless you use GPSDirect and a dedicated GPS). Win 10 tablets or laptops with a location sensor are few and far between.

Terry
bluediesel
Dear Terry, once again am indebted to your kind help! What an amazing program. Let me ask another question, in nRoute the default map is Trip and Waypoint Manager, is there a world map similar but with slightly more detail? Don't need street level detail it is used for flying only.
tcassidy
No, I'm not aware of one in that format. MapSource has one called Global Map but it seems to be part of the program rather than an entity.

Terry
Boyd
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
MapSource has one called Global Map but it seems to be part of the program rather than an entity.
IIRC, if you have an original installation of Mapsource, then it should include a global map. But if you just installed the update (like many of us have done when setting up new machines) there will be no basemap.

Basecamp has a global map, but sneaky Garmin has hidden it in an unusal place, and it is in the new .gmap format. On my Windows 7 machine it is located in:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Garmin\BaseCamp\Maps\Global Application Basemap v2.gmap

Now .gmap "files" are actually folders, so if you copy this folder and paste it into this location, you will be able to access it with newer versions Mapsource that are .gmap compatible:

C:\ProgramData\Garmin\Maps

I tried using Mapconverter to change this to the old registry format, but it wouldn't do it, so I don't think you will be able to use this with ancient software like nRoute.

There is also an old basemap that was part of the iQue software that I think you can still download. Not sure if you can get this working in nRoute since I believe it's just a gmapbmap.img file designed for use in a gps device. See this old article:

http://gpstracklog.com/2006/08/free_garmin_wor.html

Honestly, why would you bother with these basemaps? They all but worthless, if you compare it to a "real" map you will see that features are off by miles and it has been radically simplified, showing curved roads as straight lines. How useful could a 10MB map of the whole world be?

I think you would be better off with openstreetmap or something from gpsfiledepot.
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