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CoPilot Live Premium vs. CoPilot Live Premium HD
GoneNomad
I noticed that ALK has CoPilot Live at a discount thru 8/12:

http://blog.copilotlive.com/na/2012/08/02/hot-summer-savings-up-to-45-off/#more-6302

I also noticed that the iOS version (not Android) is available in a "HD" version and the description (http://www.copilotlive.com/us/personal/ipad.asp) mentions something about "beautiful high-resolution graphics" so I'm wondering whether the "HD" refers to the ultra high-res of the new iPad? And I'm wondering if the 'regular' Premium version for Android uses the full res of a 10" tablet (typically 1280x800).
malaki86
I have CoPilot Truck HD for the iPad, and in all honesty, it looks the same on my Android phone (non-HD) and the laptop.
Ken in Regina
In the mobile world "HD" does not usually refer to"high definition". It usually means that the app is designed to run on a tablet and make full use of its larger screen.

On a tablet a non-HD (e.g. "phone") app will do one of two things. Either it will "stretch" the lower number of pixels to try to fit the larger tablet screen which will cause it to lose resolution and even cause some pixelation. Or it will not try to expand to the larger screen, retaining its native resolution and displaying on the tablet in the same size/shape as a phone screen.

That is why Malaki sees no difference in resolution between the HD version on the iPad and the other versions on his phone and laptop. They are all displaying at the proper resolution for the device they are running on.

...ken...
GoneNomad
My thinking is that the "HD" refers to utilizing the full 2048x1536 resolution of an iPad 3, distinguishing it from the 1280x800 res. of an Android tablet like the 10" Toshiba Thrive (or for that matter, the 1024x768 res. of the older iPad 2). I sent a message to their tech support, and will post what their reply.
Ken in Regina
I think you will find that it simply means the app will use the full resolution of whichever tablet it is running on.

...ken...
GoneNomad
If that is true, the Android versions of CoPilot would not be very useful on a 1280x800 res tablet like the Thrive. It would be like having SD TV letterboxed out of a HD TV set, or stretched out to fit the HD screen.
Ken in Regina
You do not seem to be reading what I am writing. I said it most likely means that an "HD" app will use the full resolution of whichever tablet it is running on.

Of course, as I said above, the phone apps (e.g. non-HD versions) do exactly as you described when you run them on tablets. That's why the "HD" versions are being developed and marketed for tablets.

...ken...
GoneNomad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
You do not seem to be reading what I am writing. I said it most likely means that an "HD" app will use the full resolution of whichever tablet it is running on.

...ken...
Here's my original post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneNomad
I noticed that ALK has CoPilot Live at a discount thru 8/12:

http://blog.copilotlive.com/na/2012/08/02/hot-summer-savings-up-to-45-off/#more-6302

I also noticed that the iOS version (not Android) is available in a "HD" version and the description (http://www.copilotlive.com/us/personal/ipad.asp) mentions something about "beautiful high-resolution graphics"; so I'm wondering whether the "HD" refers to the ultra high-res of the new iPad? And I'm wondering if the 'regular' Premium version for Android uses the full res of a 10" tablet (typically 1280x800).
The IPad version is HD. The Android version is not HD.
The question is whether or not the Android (non-HD) version uses the full 1280x800 resolution of a tablet like the Thrive. You are the one who suggested it would not, here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
In the mobile world HD does not usually refer to high definition. It usually means that the app is designed to run on a tablet and make full use of its larger screen.

On a tablet a non-HD app will do one of two things. Either it will stretch the lower number of pixels to try to fit the larger tablet screen which will cause it to lose resolution and even cause some pixelation. Or it will not try to expand to the larger screen, retaining its native resolution and displaying on the tablet in the same size/shape as a phone screen.

That is why Malaki sees no difference in resolution between the HD version on the iPad and the other versions on his phone and laptop. They are all displaying at the proper resolution for the device they are running on.

...ken...
I sent a message to their tech support, and will post what their reply.
I guess I should have waited for their reply before posting here.
malaki86
I'd also assume that the tablet versions of CoPilot will do the same thing as the Windows version: adjust the layout/screen to match the resolution that's given to it.
GoneNomad
My question to ALK tech support:

I noticed that for the iPad you offer an "HD" version of CoPilot, but not for Android. Can you confirm that the Android version of CoPilot (which is not "HD") uses the full 1280x800 screen resolution an Android tablet like the 10" Toshiba Thrive, or is the (non-HD) Android version limited to the typical (lower) resolution of an Android phone?

Answer from ALK Technical support (Jason):

"...the full screen resolution of 1280x800 is used on Android devices"


So it sounds like the "HD" iPad version is just marketing hype (I'm sure ALK knows how receptive the typical iPad user is to marketing hype).
tcassidy
I fail to see how your question or the answer relates to iPad resolution at all!

Terry
GoneNomad
Alrighty, then.

The other part of my question to ALK tech support was:
"Is that "HD" a reference to utilizing the full 2048x1536 resolution of an iPad 3?"

ALK tech support did not answer that or provide any insight as to what they mean by "HD" so I left it off the above post.

So I still don't know what they mean by the iPad version being "HD" when the Android version is not "HD" but still provides a 'High-Definition' display. As I mentioned before, my guess is that it refers to utilizing the full 2048x1536 resolution of an iPad 3, distinguishing it from the 1280x800 res. of an Android tablet like the 10" Toshiba Thrive (or for that matter, the 1024x768 res. of the older iPad 2), or it's just for marketing purposes, or maybe both.
GoneNomad
I asked ALK the question again:

"Since the CoPilot for iPad is called "HD" but the Android CoPilot is not, what does the "HD" mean? Does it refer to using the full 2048x1536 resolution of an iPad 3?"

The answer from ALK (Jason):

"Yes, the HD refers directly to the resolution of the new iPad."
GoneNomad
I recently was searching for something else on ALK's website,
and since a keyword search here: http://www.copilotlive.com/us/support/
(no matter what you search for) returns this gibberish:
gsfnResultsCallback([{"summary":"","subject":"New purchase comes with outdated maps! Over 11 years old in a MAJOR area of downtown Pittsburgh.","style":"problem","date":"39 minutes ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/new_purchase_comes_with_outdated_maps_over_11_years_old_in_a_major_area_of_downtown_pittsburgh?utm_medium=widget&utm_sou rce=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subject":"Using CoPilot in the USA","style":"question","date":"about 3 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/using_copilot_in_the_usa?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subject":"Hi I have a 6 metre motorhome would your "truck" app be suitable?","style":"question","date":"about 4 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/hi_i_have_a_6_metre_motorhome_would_your_truck_app_be_suitable?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summa ry":"","subject":"CoPilot Audio through the speaker, even if bluetooth is on?","style":"question","date":"about 4 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/copilot_audio_through_the_speaker_even_if_bluetooth_is_on?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":" ","subject":"Please give us individual volume sliders!","style":"idea","date":"about 4 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/please_give_us_individual_volume_sliders?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subject":"How to purchase additional maps?","style":"question","date":"about 8 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/how_to_purchase_additional_maps?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subject":"New Message Received","style":"problem","date":"about 24 hours ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/new_mesage_received?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subject":"What is the memory requirement for CoPilot for trucks laptop version?","style":"question","date":"1 day ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/what_is_the_memory_requirement_for_copilot_for_trucks_laptop_version?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{ "summary":"","subject":"Maps won't download... stuck on "Waiting for connection..." (Archos)","style":"problem","date":"1 day ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/maps_wont_download_stuck_on_waiting_for_connection?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"},{"summary":"","subj ect":"putting maps on external card","style":"problem","date":"2 days ago","url":"http://getsatisfaction.com/copilotlive/topics/putting_maps_on_external_card?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_copilotlive"}])

I started browsing here:
http://www.copilotlive.com/us/support/faq-cl9.asp
and I stumbled across the Q&A below that provides clarity to the answer I got from ALK tech support.
According to this, the standard CoPilot iOS does not include the high-resolution graphics and split screen views available with CoPilot Live HD.

iPhone/iPad Specific
  1. Does the CoPilot Live iPhone app work on the iPad? - Yes, the standard CoPilot Live iPhone apps do run on iPad. However they do not include the high-resolution graphics and split screen views available with CoPilot Live HD.
  2. Does the CoPilot Live Premium HD iPad app work on the iPhone? - Yes, CoPilot Live Premium HD USA and CoPilot Live Premium HD North America are universal apps that are designed to run on both the iPhone and iPad 3G or 4G.
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneNomad
  1. Does the CoPilot Live iPhone app work on the iPad? - Yes, the standard CoPilot Live iPhone apps do run on iPad. However they do not include the high-resolution graphics and split screen views available with CoPilot Live HD.
Yeah, exactly what I said in the first place.

...ken...
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