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CoPilot features Q&A
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by malaki86
Also, don't forget, that CoPilot was designed to be used on touchscreen devices. On a true touchscreen, there is no right-click to access the copy/paste menus. Sure, you can set your touchscreen driver to react to a long-press as a right-click, but I've rarely have had any luck with that.
That would be a very, very minor problem to overcome if CoPilot even supported copy&paste, which AFAIK it does not. ALK could have provided a paste (or "import" from the clipboard) button if they wanted to, or for that matter I'm sure there is plenty of 3rd party Windows software out there to provide touchscreen buttons for common functions that would otherwise be accomplished with a keyboard. There are also styluses with buttons on them. There are plenty of options for almost anything on the Windows platform.

Quote:
Originally Posted by malaki86
I honestly don't see what the big deal is - I can type a new address from scratch into CoPilot in under 10 seconds using the keyboard, maybe 20 seconds using the touchscreen.
I guess, if in the year 2012, the idea of having to re-type addresses (unless you have custom software created) that are already in electronic text form on what is generically referred to as a "personal digital assistant" (or maybe even the SAME hardware that CoPilot is also running on) doesn't scream "bass-ackwards"
DieselBoss
The commercial version allows for using RouteSync to send addresses and routes directly to the unit in the vehicle without the driver doing anything (http://www.copilotlive.com/us/truck/routeSync.asp)

Non-commercial versions have to type in an address, search an existing POI, or create custom POI importations.
GoneNomad
Thanks for the info. Since that's apparently not really a custom version (is it?) then just out of curiousity, how much more does it cost for that version?
DieselBoss
The drivers version is $149. The office back-end is in the thousands. It is made for fleet management and dispatching.
GoneNomad
So the feature itself costs 50 bucks, but to use it costs thousands... making it a nice and effective solution for a limited range of customers who are willing to pay thousands to make it work. There are much simpler ways to do this, all running on the same Windows platform as CoPilot. The stupid choices ALK has made keep piling up.
DieselBoss
Well sort-of.

There is more to the commercial version than just that feature. So that feature alone does not cost $50.

And that feature is made for their bread-and-butter core business. Limiting it to their fairly new non-commercial base is a business decision at this time.

Garmin has a novel thing about to release on their new windshield unit where you can send routes and addresses to it via cell phone app. Perhaps the laptop GPS makers will take a look at it too.
GoneNomad
OOPS! I shouldn't have assumed that was the only feature in the $149 version.

Yep, that dēzl 760LMT has some nice features. Garmin is probably the leader of stand-alone nav units as far as accepting external data, POIs, etc. I sure wish newer versions of S&T had an audible POI alert feature like Garmin has, too.

There is something to be said for doing trip planning in S&T and then exporting the route info to a Garmin, but IMO it's still too many steps, and since the Garmin is still going to recalculate the route using its own algorithms, you can't be sure it will use the same route and you still have the same problem as with any nav unit: it's far more difficult to preview the route than it is on a large display.
GoneNomad
FWIW, CoPilot now has a thread on their support forum explaining how to do this:

How do I import custom POIs on Android?

They also have instructions for iOS. But no mention of being able to do it on Windows.

I realize this is an old thread, referring to laptop v8, but my renewed interest in CoPilot (Windows) now that it only costs $20, makes me wonder if this POI import method still works in the laptop v9 that they finally released this year?
GoneNomad
Here are a couple of excellent reviews of CoPilot.

The first CoPilot review is from 2010:
4071 miles with ALK's CoPilot Live - One Guy's View


The more recent CoPilot review is from July 2016.
3200 Miles with CoPilot RV: It's the Best of Bad Choices for RV Navigation

Here's a choice excerpt from this one:


"...over the course of this 3200 mile trip that CoPilot provided a "splits off" instruction at least 100 times that I'd categorize as completely unnecessary.

Even worse, I have CoPilot set to provide three audible upcoming turn prompts as the next turn is approached. CoPilot uses these three prompt distances to announce these "splits off" warnings too. So 100 unnecessary uses of the "splits off" alert turns into 300 audible prompts.

The "splits off" alert has good intentions. It is a nice feature in the specific circumstance where a road legitimately "forks" and the driver could go multiple ways.

However, CoPilot RV provides this "splits off" instruction on things like standard freeway exit ramps even when the ramp isn't one of the freeway drive lanes. It also repeatedly does it when two highways intersect, even when that intersection would require a right or left turn using a dedicated lane. Here is an example.

Notice the intersecting Highway 1695. It has absolutely nothing to do with my route. At Highway 1695, I-70 is elevated and Highway 1695 passes below. Highway 1695 is accessible via standard freeway entrance and exit ramps. Despite this, CoPilot RV insists on warning me "Stay on Interstate 70 as Highway 1695 splits off."

It's a ridiculous instruction and it occurs over and over again in the app.

So, we have this annoying "splits off" situation but yet there are situations where CoPilot is silent when there should be instructions provided..."
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