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CoPilot Live V9 Truck Laptop
malaki86
Ok - just found a possible MASSIVE issue (it could also be because I don't have a GPS connected):

I thought I'd try laying out a trip. When I clicked on the 'Plan or Edit Trip' button, I'm greeted with this message: 'This is a feature upgrade. Would you like to learn more?', with buttons for 'Cancel' and 'Ok'. Clicking 'Cancel' goes back to the MyRoute menu. Clicking 'Ok' gives me a blank screen, with a dimmed out 'Buy Now' button.

Edit:
I think I caused that issue. While I was looking around, I found the screen for deactivating the software on this computer. This deactivates it immediately, but keeps running. When I quit the program and restarted it, I was immediately asked to activate it.

Edit2: Yup - that was it. I had to use http://activate.alk.com to straighten it out, but the trip planner works now.
malaki86
I found a major issue for the setup I use...

I run Centrafuse, which is a front-end software to control/run other things while driving. Centrafuse 'embeds' CoPilot v8 absolutely perfect, meaning it looks like CoPilot is running 'inside' of Centrafuse.

That's not the case with CoPilot v9. It seems like CoPilot wants to use the entire screen resolution. When it embeds into Centrafuse, you lose the bottom & right of the program's screens. Not good for me, that's for sure...
Marvin Hlavac
Check with Centrafuse if they plan to support the new CoPilot version 9.
malaki86
Another issue - I can't figure out for the life of me where to put the files from my own POI's so that CoPilot will import them. I've tried every directory that CoPilot has in both ProgramFiles and ProgramData...
malaki86
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Check with Centrafuse if they plan to support the new CoPilot version 9.
It's not Centrafuse that's the problem though - CoPilot is using a 'fixed' resolution in their software. From the way I see it, CoPilot is getting the current screen resolution from Windows itself instead of using what's actually available to it. That's how CoPilot v8 worked.

CoPilot v8 ran in a non-windowed full-screen mode. CoPilot v9 runs in a maximized window mode (taskbar stays visible). If there's a setting to turn on full-screen, I haven't found it yet.
Marvin Hlavac
Do you think there is a possibility Centrafuse developer could find a work around for this?
malaki86
I posted it on their site. Hoping someone can find a fix for it.
tcassidy
One of my issues with V8 was it could not be switched to windowed mode and you could not adjust the window size. Are you sure that is your problem with V9 and Centrafuse?

Terry
malaki86
The new version doesn't 'window' either. You see a normal Windows window for it, but it's maximized and can't be resized. It can be minimized and that's it. The windows taskbar also always shows.
GoneNomad
Quote:
Originally Posted by malaki86
The new version doesn't 'window' either. You see a normal Windows window for it, but it's maximized and can't be resized. It can be minimized and that's it. The windows taskbar also always shows.
Glad to know that - I don't know if I had noticed that limitation before. That's another example of it being too much like a tablet app, and not having the flexibility some of us have come to expect from any Windows program. If the other flaws I've noted elsewhere weren't enough, that's another reason (for me, at least) to not buy it.
malaki86
v8 didn't even run in a window - it ran full screen.
tcassidy
Quote:
Originally Posted by malaki86
The new version doesn't 'window' either. You see a normal Windows window for it, but it's maximized and can't be resized. It can be minimized and that's it. The windows taskbar also always shows.
So, the problem is with Centrafuse. They must have modified something to size CoPilot v8 and they need to do the same for v9.

Terry
GoneNomad
Quote:
Originally Posted by malaki86
v8 didn't even run in a window - it ran full screen.
Yeah, I noticed that tcassidy mentioned that, but I never tried v8 either.
The only Windows version of CoPilot I did try is the older version 10 (three versions back from v9), and it did allow program window to be resized.

If I didn't have all the specific objections I've already noted elsewhere, I guess another indication of ALK's bass-ackwardness can be deduced from their choice to roll back the numbering scheme for the Windows OS, in order to bring versions on all OS to the same number, instead of rolling UP the versions on the other OS (and I'm sure it seemed reasonable to the minds at ALK, considering the relative market shares of each platform).

Also, they keep insisting on calling CoPilot for Windows the "laptop" version (yeah, I know, there's also a "Windows Mobile Phone" version, but still... )
malaki86
No - Centrafuse knows nothing 'specific' about CoPilot, other than it's another program to run. It's not built into it - it simply has the ability to embed Windows software into it. But, not all software will embed properly due to the design of the software and how it's set up to deal with multiple screen resolutions.
OneRVer
Wow! This is different. I will have to study this one, although, Diesel Boss would be proud,,,,,, I got this loaded with no problems.
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