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wav
I have been using Mobile PC since 2008 but the receiver is slow to recognize lately. I am very careful with it so I am not sure why that would be happening other than "age." I need to use a PC since I cannot see small screens plus I am the "navigator" & I am looking at a number of things on the map. I also need to upload my pins for different territories which I do with the gdb files.

If I understand correctly from all my reading if the Garmin gps receiver Mobile PC x20 dies I will not be able to use Mobile PC any more? (I never liked having to clk in 4+ levels to get to managing my data, deleting pins etc.) But have no idea if I'd like streets and trips better.

If I buy Streets & Trips 2013 with bundled receiver... if that receiver ever dies can I buy a stand alone receiver to use with S&T? Also does the S&T receiver work with nRoute? (Oh yeah, does anyone know what the difference is between nRouteEnglish_261 and nRoute_276?)
OR
Should I buy a stand alone receiver and try GpsGateClient to see if my Mobile PC software still works or is that a waste of time?

We also like having voice directions and being able to have alerts and special POIs.

Thanks in advance for suggestions...
Ken in Regina
You can download a free trial of Streets&Trips 2013. It is fully functional, no restrictions other than it simply quits working after 60 days if you don't buy it and enter the registration key before then.

You will discover huge differences, too many to list here. They have to be experienced to decide if they matter to you.

The Reader's Digest version is that the trip planning features of Streets&Trips are extensive, way beyond what exist in Mobile PC. This may not be an improvement for you if you already use Mapsource for your trip planning.

The navigation functions of Mobile PC are much superior to Streets&Trips. But you need to compare them for yourself to see if the differences matter to you.

You will need a standalone receiver, like the GlobalSat BU-353, to test the navigation functions of Streets&Trips. That would also give you the opportunity to test it with Mobile PC.

In the short term, downloading GPSGate express (free) version will allow you to test your 20x. If GPSGate can find it you can use it with either Mobile PC or to test the trial version of Streets&Trips.

...ken...
tcassidy
Mobile PC won't work with any GPS including the 20x if you route the signal through GPS Gate.

Terry
Marvin Hlavac
Just a short addition to the above Ken's reply: while the previous three Streets & Trips versions offered the unusually long 60 day free trial period, the current 2013 version offers a shorter 14-day free trial.
wav
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
You can download a free trial of Streets&Trips 2013. It is fully functional, no restrictions other than it simply quits working after 60 days if you don't buy it and enter the registration key before then.

You will discover huge differences, too many to list here. They have to be experienced to decide if they matter to you.

The Reader's Digest version is that the trip planning features of Streets&Trips are extensive, way beyond what exist in Mobile PC. This may not be an improvement for you if you already use Mapsource for your trip planning.

The navigation functions of Mobile PC are much superior to Streets&Trips. But you need to compare them for yourself to see if the differences matter to you.

You will need a standalone receiver, like the GlobalSat BU-353, to test the navigation functions of Streets&Trips. That would also give you the opportunity to test it with Mobile PC.

In the short term, downloading GPSGate express (free) version will allow you to test your 20x. If GPSGate can find it you can use it with either Mobile PC or to test the trial version of Streets&Trips.

...ken...
Thanks to all for the info...

a couple of other questions: If I buy Streets & Trips 2013 with bundled receiver... will that receiver work with nroute or mapsource or only with S&T? (like the Garmin receiver only works with the software it is attached to) (also does anyone know what the difference is between nRouteEnglish_261 and nRoute_276?)
tcassidy
The GPS bundled with S&T 2013 will only work with nRoute if you use GPS Gate.

Terry
tcassidy
I have no idea what the difference is between those 2 versions as they are all very old. However, you can get any version you want here:

http://www.gawisp.com/perry/nroute/

Terry
tcassidy
If you have a version of MapSource old enough to provide GPS functionality, it will accept either Garmin or NMEA type data from an external GPS device. Therefore it might work with the S&T 2013 GPS.

Terry
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
Mobile PC won't work with any GPS including the 20x if you route the signal through GPS Gate.

Terry
You're right. I confused it with nRoute.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
Just a short addition to the above Ken's reply: while the previous three Streets & Trips versions offered the unusually long 60 day free trial period, the current 2013 version offers a shorter 14-day free trial.
Darn!! I'm striking out on all counts today! I'll just have to plead memory deterioration due to vacation withdrawal pains.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by wav
Thanks to all for the info...

a couple of other questions: If I buy Streets & Trips 2013 with bundled receiver... will that receiver work with nroute or mapsource or only with S&T? (like the Garmin receiver only works with the software it is attached to) (also does anyone know what the difference is between nRouteEnglish_261 and nRoute_276?)
Just a bit of a follow-on to Terry's responses...

The differences are that the first is version 2.6.1 and the second is version 2.7.6. I'm not sure what changes were made between those two releases.

2.7.6 is the last version released by Garmin. It's the version I have installed and it supports English, if that's what you were wondering about.

The GPS receivers bundled with Streets&Trips are standard NMEA compatible receivers that will work with any navigation program that uses NMEA input data. That does not include nRoute. nRoute only works with the proprietary Garmin protocol. GPSGate knows how to "translate". That is, you can connect a receiver with standard NMEA output to GPSGate and it will create a virtual COM port with Garmin protocol output that nRoute is happy to use.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
Mobile PC won't work with any GPS including the 20x if you route the signal through GPS Gate.

Terry
Terry or Marvin (or ProITM if you are still watching), do you remember what the ProITM versions of Mobile PC worked with. I recall that one of the things they fixed was the inability of Mobile PC to work with newer Garmin receivers.

Were they "software-only" versions? I think they were. If so, they should work with any standard NMEA receiver just fine. ..... Or would there still be a problem with the maps being locked to his 20x? I should really go back and read some of those old threads but I've got some other stuff I need to do right now....

...ken...
tcassidy
The problem would be maps locked to the 20x as you recall. The 20x comes with the hardware version of Mobile PC with maps locked to the specific GPS that it is shipped with.

Terry
wav
Once again thanks to all for the info!
BTW does anyone have a suggestion / preference if it is better to buy a standalone receiver rather than the one bundled with S&T?

I'm in the process of downloading S&T!

Thanks Again!
Marvin Hlavac
The BU-353 USB GPS, especially the new one with the S4 chip, will give you better sensitivity and over all better performance. It will not be as inexpensive as the Streets & Trips with GPS Locator bundle, but if you have the extra $20 or $30 it may be well worth it.
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