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Garmin Base Camp doesn't recognize GPX file from Microsoft Streets & Trips
MaryLou
I have Windows 7 on my PC & my laptop. I have Microsoft Streets & Trips 2013. I have a Garmin Nuvi 52LM and Base Camp. Even though MS S&T does not recognize my Garmin, I can export a trip to a GPX file. This file cannot be imported into my Base Camp (which is recognized by Garmin). Therefore, I cannot put it in my Garmin. Can anyone help me?
SteveJonesMO
The "Export to GPX" function in both MapPoint and S&T produce a GPX file with a damaged "time" tag. It's been that way since 2010.

Some programs (like MapSource and Basecamp) will not open it.

You could manually edit the GPX file to remove or fix the time tags. But it is easier to open and save it using a tool that doesn't bark at the damaged tags.

GPSBabel will handle the broken tag. GPSU does also.
werdnanostaw
Even when you get a GPX from S&T or AR to open in another program you won't / may not like the result because if you have entered via points for the route the GPX viewing software will display those points connected by straight lines in addition to the track points.

I did develop a procedure for processing GPX files to make them work in GPX viewing software and for removing the route that I intended to write up and post here but I was travelling in Europe at the time and I forgot to do it when I got home.

Now where did I save the files? Somewhere in Dropbox I guess...
MaryLou
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveJonesMO
The "Export to GPX" function in both MapPoint and S&T produce a GPX file with a damaged "time" tag. It's been that way since 2010.

Some programs (like MapSource and Basecamp) will not open it.

You could manually edit the GPX file to remove or fix the time tags. But it is easier to open and save it using a tool that doesn't bark at the damaged tags.

GPSBabel will handle the broken tag. GPSU does also.
I contacted Garmin also and it seems that it doesn't support a multiple waypoint file. So I am handling it differently. Thanks anyway.
MaryLou
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Originally Posted by werdnanostaw
Even when you get a GPX from S&T or AR to open in another program you won't / may not like the result because if you have entered via points for the route the GPX viewing software will display those points connected by straight lines in addition to the track points.

I did develop a procedure for processing GPX files to make them work in GPX viewing software and for removing the route that I intended to write up and post here but I was travelling in Europe at the time and I forgot to do it when I got home.

Now where did I save the files? Somewhere in Dropbox I guess...
I contacted Garmin also and it seems that it doesn't support a multiple waypoint file. So I am handling it differently. Thanks anyway.
SteveJonesMO
I believe there may have been some miscommunication or you were advised by someone poorly informed. Garmin support is like that sometimes.

But I promise you Garmin software imports multiple waypoint files just fine - I've been doing it for years. So long as the data isn't corrupted, as is the S&T output.

But as I explained it is easy to handle.
MaryLou
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Originally Posted by SteveJonesMO
I believe there may have been some miscommunication or you were advised by someone poorly informed. Garmin support is like that sometimes.

But I promise you Garmin software imports multiple waypoint files just fine - I've been doing it for years. So long as the data isn't corrupted, as is the S&T output.

But as I explained it is easy to handle.
Hi, SteveJonesMO, I googled GPSBabel but when I click on download, it gives me "OnLine Maps" to download. Is that the program I need? It looks like it is just another mapping program! Before I download it, I need to know if this is the program which will allow me to use Streets & Trips and import it into Base Camp to download to my Garmin. Thanks. MaryLou
t923347
Yea, the download page is riddled with download boxes that lead to some other piece of software but the GPSBabel download is there.

On the download page - http://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html#downloading

scroll down to the "Latest Releases" area below the Support GPSbabel Development message. Then click on .exe, .dmg or .gz box depending on what operating system your computer is using. I'm assuming it's windows so click on the box that reads - GPSBabel - 1.4.4 - Setup.exe. That will start the download of the GPSBabel program.
SteveJonesMO
Mary Lou:

Just go to http://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html and download the "Latest Release" version for your platform (windows, mac or linux). If you do that it should download a file named something like GPSBabel-1.4.4-Setup.exe (for windows) or GPSBabel-1.4.4.dmg (for mac). The BETA windows version also seems to work fine. I haven't tried mac or linux.

I just dowloaded it again and never got the "online maps" prompt you mentioned.

When you run GPSBabel, tell it to use "GPX XML" for both input and output file formats.

It works perfectly - I just now used the first file attached below in S&T to export the second file (GPX, with damaged <time> tags) which Garmin Mapsource cannot open.

Then I used that damaged second file as input to GPSBabel, with the final file as the GPSBabel export. It processed without error.

The third file (exported by GPSBabel) opens fine with Mapsource and should also with Basecamp.

GPSBabel version 1.4.4 (the current release, not the beta) also supports an input format called "Microsoft Streets and Trips (pin/route reader)" which seems to directly open S&T files. That input format appears to have been dropped from the beta version.

If you and GPSBabel still can't get along, there's a very nifty tool called "ITN Converter" (or ITNconv) which is also free.

You can get it here. Very powerful and some learning curve, but still free. I find it exceptionally useful for moving things to or from google maps routes.

It also handles the damaged S&T export format without error.

Another option is GPSU, which is also excellent but not free (though it has a free limited demo version that may be good enough).

It supports S&T "*.est" file format (input only), and allow you to export S&T routes, bypassing the damaged S&T gpx export process. But GPSBabel should be able to do the same for free.

I hope this helps.
Attached Files
File Type: est 48s.est (8.5 KB)
File Type: gpx 48s_SnT_GPX_Export.gpx (2.8 KB)
File Type: gpx 48s_GPSBabel_Export.gpx (2.1 KB)
SteveJonesMO
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Originally Posted by t923347
Yea, the download page is riddled with download boxes that lead to some other piece of software...
Ah yes... I forgot that I use the "Ad Blocker Plus" plugin on my browser.

I frequently have no idea about all the spammy noise that infests many websites.
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