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spacesnow
Hi,

So as I see, there is not such offline trip-planning software available to match Autoroute functionality on planning? During last 6 years I tried few online-offline solutions but had always ended up to use Autoroute when planning trips with multiple stop-points and cost and time factors involved.
Software applications just getting dumber and dumber. For example Nokia Maps from 5 years ago is full of functionality compared to current Lumia here (or whatever the name atm is). Sad.
SpadesFlush
I feel your pain.

But, as a former Microsoft Money user, I've been there before.

I suppose at some point the same will happen to Office, too.

When does Microsoft cease being a software company?
monkey2
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
Too bad, I was really hoping for a touch friendly version. Pretty soon there will only be Delorme! I know ALK is hanging in there but the majority of their consumer product development seems to be concentrated on phones. Maybe the truck version is different.

Terry
Checkout Good Sam RV at Camping World. They have specially configured RV GPS by Rand McNally. Magellan Rv has one. The guy, Marcus Lemonis who bought Sams Club & CampingWorld might scoop it up for the traveling industry. He's the PROFIT on Tuesday nights. If he knows M$ wants out.
jkotsonas
Hello,
I came across your forum while searching for info regarding the discontinuation of MS S&Ts.

We have a couple of depts. here who have used S&Ts, and I've been tasked with researching out alternatives. But as this is not a software that we (IT) have owned in the past, I'm pretty unfamiliar with it.

Some of the info I've managed to obtain so far is that neither Bing, nor Google Maps will suffice. Some of the requirements needed are:

- needs to be able to plot 1, 3, 5 mile rings around sites. - need to be able to find distances to existing locations from proposed locations, etc.
- needs to be able to add JPG files to the map of other retailers, etc.
- needs to be able to print to a PDF for our Real Estate Committee presentations
- the ability to upload a list of stores so that all of our stores are located (we have about 280 stores across the country)

Not sure if hardware requirements are a factor, but if so, the depts using the software have:

-Toshiba laptops running Windows 7 (32 bit)
- Office 2010 (32 bit)
- i5/i7 processors
- 8/16 GB RAM
- integrated, and 1 GB video cards

If there's any additional info needed, please let me know.

Thanks very much for any/all help!

Jim
SpadesFlush
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkotsonas
Hello,
I came across your forum while searching for info regarding the discontinuation of MS S&Ts.

We have a couple of depts. here who have used S&Ts, and I've been tasked with researching out alternatives. But as this is not a software that we (IT) have owned in the past, I'm pretty unfamiliar with it.

Some of the info I've managed to obtain so far is that neither Bing, nor Google Maps will suffice. Some of the requirements needed are:

- needs to be able to plot 1, 3, 5 mile rings around sites. - need to be able to find distances to existing locations from proposed locations, etc.
- needs to be able to add JPG files to the map of other retailers, etc.
- needs to be able to print to a PDF for our Real Estate Committee presentations
- the ability to upload a list of stores so that all of our stores are located (we have about 280 stores across the country)

Not sure if hardware requirements are a factor, but if so, the depts using the software have:

-Toshiba laptops running Windows 7 (32 bit)
- Office 2010 (32 bit)
- i5/i7 processors
- 8/16 GB RAM
- integrated, and 1 GB video cards

If there's any additional info needed, please let me know.

Thanks very much for any/all help!

Jim
Why not just continue to use S&T?
monkey2
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
Too bad, I was really hoping for a touch friendly version. Pretty soon there will only be Delorme! I know ALK is hanging in there but the majority of their consumer product development seems to be concentrated on phones. Maybe the truck version is different.

Terry
Hi Guys, Not sure where to post this .. but "Pilot FlyingJ" .. pilotflyingj com has a free "MyPilot' app. It's not S&T but has some nice features.
monkey2
Newbee
Did any one NOT see this coming? It is indeed a sad time but not surprising. They did lose some customers with their slider speed option implemented a few versions before. Microsoft has been making a lot of mistakes over the years.

As far as discontinuing MS Office? That'll never happen. If anything, it will be discontinued in it's present form and ony be available on Cloud.
monkey2
I use Amazon com, somebody asked, but I had to log in but then I lost the thread.
monkey2
Now you can't buy, only rent!
jkotsonas
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpadesFlush
Why not just continue to use S&T?
Because it is being discontinued, and eventually we'll need an alternative
jkotsonas
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkotsonas
Because it is being discontinued, and eventually we'll need an alternative
and to add to that... I've been asked to research out alternatives, hence my post to the list.
monkey2
I'm getting reacquainted with DeLorme 2014. Compared to S&T it was top heavy, now it's a good alternative. I got it from my favorite retailer for under $40 USD
My Point...Exactly
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Originally Posted by jkotsonas
and to add to that... I've been asked to research out alternatives, hence my post to the list.
Hi Jkotsonas:

Here's an excerpt from a note we at My Point...Exactly put out to our subscribers that may be a little helpful now - and perhaps more so in the future.

It's painful to read your requirements list as those are all so easily handled by Street and Trips. Pound for pound....maybe Street Atlas IS the heir apparent. I personally am not that familiar with SA, as it didn't fit my needs 10 years ago....but who knows, maybe they've grown into a business role.

Exerpt:
"...While they offer suggested migration paths of Power BI for Excel or Bing maps for developers, the reality is that Microsoft doesn't currently have any product that will match the functionality of these two mapping workhorses with equivalent functionality or the same ease of use that we’ve known.

Furthermore, at the moment, there is no obvious next best choice for those of us who depend on Streets and Trips and MapPoint to increase efficiency and productivity while reducing costs. There are certainly other products out there that are similar, but in terms of features, functionality, ease of use and price - I think it’s going to be a challenge to find a product that loyal Streets and Trips and MapPoint fans will be comfortable with..

That said, we here at My Point...Exactly, LLC will be looking for our suggested replacement. Candidates will include Google Maps Engine, Maptitude, Badger Mapping, Bing Maps, Power BI for Excel, Mapbusiness online, DeLorme Street Atlas, Open Street Map, BatchGeo, and more.

Full text of the My Point...Exactly customer notification can be seen here.
Tom Bernardi
<edit>moved here from another location</edit>

Sad to say that the end of Microsoft Streets & Trips has come.

Here is the link: http://www.microsoft.com/Streets/en-us/default.aspx

Support continues through July 14, 2015

Thank you Larry and your whole team for all the support and Megafiles of databases throughout the years.

Tom Bernardi
mulley51
I have been using S&T for many, many years. We planned week long road trips in 2003 and in 2013 and a cross country Virginia-California trip in 2010. Also, I plan vacations and day trips. I plan make-believe trips I would love to take. We live out in the country and I even have a route to use for my trips to town with all of our regular stores, doctors, exercise stops on it. It makes for more efficient “errand running”. If you save your trip after using gps on a laptop you can see exactly what route you took and later identify places you visited. Very handy.

There are no other programs that compare. Delorme is good for a straight route but you cannot plan stops such as short stops for gas or lunch or longer stops for an afternoon in a National Park or overnight stays. Garmin Basecamp is fine for putting a stop in your gps ahead of time. Phones and tablets have Bing, Google and many other choices and gps can help you find an address. Only with Streets & Trips can you actually plan your time and that is the most important feature to me. I plan on getting another copy of 2013 as a backup and will use it as long as my computer will run it.
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