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krtb
Thanks for looking Terry and I never got as far as that screen only got a box pop up saying edge did not support the download of the communicator plug in file. I was also on web updater and a message said there were no updates for my version of GMPC. Mine is a 2009 install disk with a 20x receiver version 5.00.70g. This all started when I was on mygarmin and was told I could update my GMPC with a lifetime update card of city navigator north America. Go figure
krtb
When I spoke to the agent at Garmin Canada to cancel my order she said that there is so much more info on the new map updates compared to what is on GMPC that even if I was able to do the download map update I would have corrupted what I already had
krtb
Hey I still have that older nroute mapping software running on metroguide north America v6. It works perfect but can this mapping software be updated somehow to current standards?
tcassidy
Sorry, I have no idea why you can't update your map. It has nothing to do with Edge or Win 10 and it sounds like your GMPC is updated more than enough. The version on that disk is probably 5.00.00 so you must have updated the software at some time. As I had no issues updating mine once I had a good copy, you should have no problem either.

The same applies to nRoute. Until you have a new map, you can't use MapReverseConverter to make it usable with nRoute. Maybe you should investigate Open Maps. I think they make versions for nRoute.

EDIT I think I remember a warning message that something with the download was not signed properly. I did so many things I can't remember when that was though. If that was your only problem, just pick the choice to go ahead anyway.

Terry
krtb
Thanks for all the help Terry. Hey you know how things go. Yesterday I had a bad day but today the sun came up and everything is better. I will have a look at Open Maps and see how it goes from there and if I get things sorted out on this end I will post it. Take care, Kurt.
Boyd
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Originally Posted by krtb
I will have a look at Open Maps and see how it goes from there
Do you mean OpenStreetMap? If so, this is where you download them:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl
tcassidy
Yes, you are right. I think Ken in Regina and Boyd are more familiar with them than me.

Terry
krtb
Hi Boyd. If I download maps from garmin.openstreetmap.nl will they automatically work on nroute or do you have to go through a procedure? I have never done this that's why I ask. Kurt
Boyd
I don't use openstreetmap, but if you read the docs I believe you can download either a compiled gmapsupp.img file that can be used directly on a GPS or an installer that will put them into Mapsource/Basecamp on your computer.

For nRoute, the maps need to be in the same format as Mapsource. The wrinkle is that Garmin came up with a different storage scheme called "gmap" about 7 years ago (IIRC). It's compatible with later versions of Mapsource, but not compatible with nRoute. So this is where you would use the MapReverseConverter program to put it in the older format.

But the good news is that third party mapmakers have been very slow to adopt the gmap format and most of them still use the old "registry" format that works in nRoute. Not positive, but I think OSM uses the old format. If not then you could use the converter program.

For MobilePC you should be able to use the pre-compiled gmapsupp.img files directly, or you should be able to install in Mapsource and send to MobilePC as you would with other maps. MobilePC doesn't have an issue with the gmap format, since it's just a change to how Mapsource/Basecamp access the maps on the computer.
Ken in Regina
Boyd is correct about what you can get. I use OpenStreetMaps for my ancient Garmin iQue 3600A and they give me an up to date set of maps that work great on such old gear.

On the page Boyd linked to, you select the map tiles you want included in your map, enter an email address to receive notifications, then click the "Build Maps" button. You will get an email telling you that your maps are being built and a link to a progress page that will tell you where your request is in the que and approximately how long it will be before the maps will be ready for download -- this can take awhile depending on how much coverage you have selected and how many others are requesting maps.

For example, I just selected the map coverage for a couple of Canadian provinces. The Progress page tells me I'm #5 in the que and that it will be about 30 minutes until the maps are ready.

At the appropriate time you will get a second email telling you that the maps are built and the link where you can download them from.

You will be interested in two things at the download link:

1. The gmapsupp.img file to use directly in Mobile PC.
2. The Mapsource/Basecamp installer that will install the selected tiles in Mapsource (registry) format so you can use them in nRoute.

My recommendation is that the first time you try you just select a small area, perhaps a couple of states or a single province, just to see how things work. This will give you something you can test on your computer without a long download. If you have any difficulties just holler in here.

Once you know how to do this, the second time will be a piece of cake and you can select map coverage for the total area you want.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
The request was finished in much less than 30 minutes. It took about 15 minutes total. Here's the email message I received:

Code:
Hi,

Your request for a Garmin map on garmin.openstreetmap.nl is ready.

The server has generated four different configurations of your map:
* _windows.exe = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/MapSource (Windows).
* _macosx.zip = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/RoadTrip (Mac OSX)
* _gmapsupp.zip = Combined image for direct manual placement on the GPS device (gmapsupp.img)
* _tiles.zip = A zip file containing the tiles in the request, especially useful for Linux users (e.g. QLandkarte)
You will be interested in the "windows.exe" file and the "gmapsupp.img" file.

You can copy or move the gmapsupp.img file into the same directory as the Mobile PC program. Terry can probably tell you where that is if you can't find it. I don't currently have Mobile PC installed on any of my computers because I only have the software version which no longer functions. It's probably something like "C:\Program Files\Garmin\Mobile PC" or similar. On Windows 10 it might be in the Program Files(x86) folder instead of Program Files.

To make the maps usable in Mapsource, Basecamp, and nRoute you can run the Windows.exe map installer and they should then be visible and usable.

Enjoy!

...ken...
Boyd
Seems to me that I've read you cannot install the full North America map because the file is over 2gb (gmapsupp.img). IIRC, MobilePC can't use files that big. Not sure whether it would be a problem in nRoute format though.
Ken in Regina
Hi Boyd,

Good memory! Yes Mobile PC maxes out at 2GB so it's a good idea to limit the coverage selected to be sure it stays under that.

Mobile PC allows you to have two map files available so it should be easy to split the coverage in two just to be sure. The second file needs to be names "gmapsup1.img" and placed into the same folder as the gmapsupp.img file.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Oops, I forgot, Mapsource won't be an issue for size. I'm still using the latest City Navigator North America maps in Mapsource with no problem. After I download each quarterly update I run it through the reverse converter to get it into Mapsource format and it works fine. And so far anything that works in Mapsource works in nRoute.

...ken...
tcassidy
Gmapsup1.img is not the right name for the second map in GMPC if you are running 5.00.70. I just can't seem to remember what the second one is called!

Terry
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