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Wychwar
Hello All,

For ten years I have tracked and recorded the course taken by the ship that I have travelled on when enjoying a cruise holiday. I have used a Garmin GPS18 USB connected to a laptop computer. The GPS unit is attached to the outside of the ship with the built-in magnet and usually requires one, sometimes two, 5M usb extension cables. It has always worked O.K. and I am anticipating that it will do so on a cruise to Norway from Liverpool later this month.
The problem is the maps. Originally I used Garmins "City Navigator Europe V8" and then when travelling beyond the scope of this map (to the Caribbean and Iceland) "WorldMap V4 was purchased and used. Because these maps are old and many of the ports have been enlarged and changed the ship is regularly "berthed" in the sea away from any land structures. This is particularly evident at St. Petersbourg, where a completely new port facility has been constructed in what shows as open water on the City Nav map.
Can anybody suggest an up to date map or maps that would alleviate this problem. I am aware that if nothing exists that is compatible with the GPS18 I may need to upgrade from this.

Regards All,

Wychwar
tcassidy
The GPS 18 is only hardware. I expect at that age, the software you are using is Garmin nRoute. It still works on modern computers and can use virtually any GPS with the help of GPS Gate.

As to how to get more modern maps, I'm not sure if you can buy them from Garmin. If you can, they won't work with nRoute without the help of MapReverseConverter to get them back to the old format.

So, if the maps are available, you can continue to use them with your software. And you can upgrade to a more modern GPS if necessary.

Garmin Maps - https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/maps/on-the-road-maps/city-navigator-nt/city-navigator-europe-nt/prod6299.html

Mapreverseconverter - http://www.javawa.nl/cne2009_multilang.html

GPS Gate - http://gpsgate.com/products/gpsgate_client

Terry
Boyd
You could also look at OpenStreetMap. There are several sources for these, one of them is http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you are using nRoute, then you will need the version of OSM that can be installed in Mapsource. I don't use these myself so I can't help with the specifics. But the good thing is that the maps are free.

http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/ is another source of free Garmin maps, especially topo maps. It tends to be rather US-centric however. Again, you would want maps that are compatible with Mapsource.
Ken in Regina
First of all, if the GPS18 and the associated GPS software you are using meets your needs and is still currently functioning, don't mess with it. It will still work fine with newer maps. All you need are newer maps for the areas of interest.

This site will get you free maps for pretty much anywhere in the world.

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

Zoom in on the desired area to be able to better select the sections you want. It's worth spending a bit of time to understand the site and how to get the type of maps you want (e.g. to use in Mapsource/Basecamp on the PC for planning or to use directly on the GPS unit for navigation) but it's priceless when you know how to get the most from it.

I used it to get maps for tracking our Caribbean cruise a couple of years ago from New Jersey to the eastern Caribbean. On the ship I used Mapsource and nRoute on a netbook with the Garmin GPS 10x Bluetooth GPS. I also use the site to occasionally refresh my maps of western Canada. I have a Garmin iQue 3600A that can no longer use the newer format of City Navigator maps but works just fine with maps built from the OpenStreetMaps files.

Enjoy.

...ken...
Wychwar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
First of all, if the GPS18 and the associated GPS software you are using meets your needs and is still currently functioning, don't mess with it. It will still work fine with newer maps. All you need are newer maps for the areas of interest.

This site will get you free maps for pretty much anywhere in the world.

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

Zoom in on the desired area to be able to better select the sections you want. It's worth spending a bit of time to understand the site and how to get the type of maps you want (e.g. to use in Mapsource/Basecamp on the PC for planning or to use directly on the GPS unit for navigation) but it's priceless when you know how to get the most from it.

I used it to get maps for tracking our Caribbean cruise a couple of years ago from New Jersey to the eastern Caribbean. On the ship I used Mapsource and nRoute on a netbook with the Garmin GPS 10x Bluetooth GPS. I also use the site to occasionally refresh my maps of western Canada. I have a Garmin iQue 3600A that can no longer use the newer format of City Navigator maps but works just fine with maps built from the OpenStreetMaps files.

Enjoy.

...ken...
Hello Ken,


I've just seen that it is three years since my last posts and replies. I have followed you advice and downloaded several maps from Garmin OpenStreetMaps. I have now got several OSM maps appearing in Nroute. This works fine but it would be much more convenient if they could all be combined in one map. Is there a way to do this?


Regards,


Roger (Wychwar)
Ken in Regina
Hi Roger! Welcome back. Glad we could help.

The simplest way to combine your maps is to simply go back to OSM and select all the areas you have at one time so OSM will create a single combined map for you. This has the added advantage of getting you the latest maps at the same time.

...ken...
Wychwar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wychwar
Hello Ken,


I've just seen that it is three years since my last posts and replies. I have followed you advice and downloaded several maps from Garmin OpenStreetMaps. I have now got several OSM maps appearing in Nroute. This works fine but it would be much more convenient if they could all be combined in one map. Is there a way to do this?


Regards,


Roger (Wychwar)
Hello Ken,


I seem to be in trouble again. I have new Windows 10 laptop. Have installed Garmin N route Mapsource and Franson Gate. I have installed Europe Map and World Map V4 O.K
Thr problem I have is with The OSM generic Routable maps from Streetmap. As far as I can remember when these were downloaded and place in a Folder called Maps within the Garmin folder on my "C" drive they appeared immediately in Nroute. Although I have copied the files from the old computer to the same locations on the new, they do not appear in Nroute. What am I doing wrong?
tcassidy
nRoute expects maps it will use to be listed at a specific location in the registry. If you still have your old computer, install Javawa GTMK on it. Have it save the maps you want to use to a SD card or USB stick. On the new computer, install Javawa GMTK and tell it to install the maps from that storage device. It will modify the registry to make the maps visible to nRoute and other older Garmin products.

http://www.javawa.nl/gmtk_en.html

Terry
Wychwar
Hello Terry,


Many thanks for you reply to my earlier query. Using Javawa GTMK software, as you suggested, the OSM maps were successfully transferred from the old to the new computer.
I have Franson Gate software installed this worked well last year with a GM - 2225 USB GPS receiver enabing the input to be used on Garmin Nroute and Mapyx Quo2 mapping software. This device was reluctant to work so I contacted the supplier to be told that the drivers needed changing.
"Windows can be a pain and the problem is always drivers. Most windows GPS applications want to use the old fashioned serial (COM) port for communication, rather than the newer "sensors" system.

So you'll need to have a Virtual COM Port driver installed, so the device appears under device manager on a COM port (see the first picture).

https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/ubloxGnss_vcpDeviceDriver_windows_3264_v3.10.exe

The COM port will have a number. You take note of that number and tell your GPS application in its settings which COM port number the device is on."


The link allowed me to download the driver, which works some of the time. Then Franson changes from green to red and I cannot find the correct setting to get things going again. HELP!!


Many Regards,


Wychwar (Roger)
tcassidy
The simplest solution may be to download the add on for GPS Gate. It will provide a COM port output based on the Windows Location API once you tell it to.

https://gpsgate.com/download/gpsgate_client

The button on this page called "Download Plugin Installer".

Otherwise the reason GPS Gate is red could be it is no longer looking at the right COM port. Try running the setup wizard again.

Terry
tcassidy
One other thing I noticed while using the plugin which may also apply in your present situation;

GPS Gate will rotate between red and green until the GPS establishes a true location. This can take a minute or two especially if you are in a location not conducive to GPS reception. So, you may want to try your luck in a better location.

Terry
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