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It really sucks that MS discontinued Streets & Trips. My son is a police officer and many of the officers used it on their laptops to find their way on calls. There are retail boxes still available online so my question is, if a person buys Streets & Trips 2013 and also buys a GPS locator (many are reported to work with Streets & Trips), will the install function the same as if you'd bought "Streets & Trips 2013 w/GPS locator"?

We saw a couple of Streets & Trips 2013 w/GPS locator for over $600 but the program without the GPS locator is still available for a couple hundred bucks.

Thanks for any replies.

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tcassidy
Really, it should cost around $60 or less and maybe another $10 for the GPS. $600 is ridiculous!. Any GPS with a refresh rate of 1 Hz at 4800 bps will work fine. We like the GlobalSat BU353 S4 but if you have an older one from S&T, it will work too.

Terry
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Thanks Terry. The GlobalSat BU353 S4 looks like a big bugger. Just saw it on Amazon. Is that just a big picture or what? :-) Where in the car does a guy normally put this if it's that big of a locator?
tcassidy
It is circular with a diameter of 2 inches and just over 1/2 inch high. Not particularly large and can mount on the dash easily. It is magnetic too.

Advantages over the S&T one are:
WAY more sensitive
Fixed USB cord

Terry
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Great - thank you.
taoyue
Does it have to be Streets & Trips? Does your son just need navigation, or does he need to use the other features of Streets & Trips?

As it happens, Windows 10 comes with a Maps app built-in. Crucially, it allows maps to be downloaded for offline use.

If your son could convince the IT people at the police department to upgrade his laptop to Windows 10, then he would have access to the Maps app without having to buy additional software.
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From what I know... Many of his fellow officers prefer and use S&T because of the GPS feature and audible turn-by-turn to their destination. Apparently they have some means of hearing the turn-by-turn directions as they're racing to their destination. I don't know that most of the other packages offer audible.
Ken in Regina
DeLorme Street Atlas, Navmii and CoPilot certainly have spoken directions. All three provide access to up to date offline maps. Street Atlas has questionable coverage outside the continental United States but if you're in the lower 48 the coverage is as good as anything.

I only have Windows 10 installed on a desktop system at the moment so I have not been able to test the navigation features of the native Maps app. But I would be astonished if it doesn't have spoken directions.

Of course the possibility of getting the powers that be to authorize an operating system upgrade of any kind, never mind to a version that was just released 2 days ago, are approximately zero.

Trying to extend the life of Streets & Trips is fine for those who have the time and inclination and can live with increasingly out of date maps. But for someone who just needs to be able to look up an address on an up to date map set and get spoken directions and doesn't have a bunch of time to screw around it's likely time to write it off and get something current even if there is a learning curve.

...ken...
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Thanks guys. I think part of the S&T thing is having something that runs on their service laptop in their cruiser. I'll check out the alternatives that you pointed out Ken - thanks again,
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Really a bummer that the discontinued it after marketing it for emergency services. Must not have been enough money in it but from what I'm told, a lot of the local police used it on their laptops.

http://www.microsoft.com/streets/911/Home.aspx?WT.mc_id=911
taoyue
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Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
I only have Windows 10 installed on a desktop system at the moment so I have not been able to test the navigation features of the native Maps app. But I would be astonished if it doesn't have spoken directions.

Of course the possibility of getting the powers that be to authorize an operating system upgrade of any kind, never mind to a version that was just released 2 days ago, are approximately zero.
If this were a big-city police department, then Windows 10 wouldn't be an option for another 3-4 years.

The only reason I mention the built-in Windows 10 Map app is that they're going on Amazon and trying to buy used copies of Streets & Trips. That suggests a certain flexibility when it comes to software. It might be possible for one person to volunteer to test out the navigation features in Windows 10.

As for navigation, the word from Microsoft is:

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In Windows 10, you can always count on having your maps available by storing your maps offline, on both your PC and phone. From the Maps Settings page, choose Download a Map and pick the regions of the world you’d like to store offline. Once downloaded, the maps, local search results, and even voice guided navigation features will work without an internet connection and without using your data plan.

https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/17/navigate-the-world-with-windows-10-maps-for-phone/
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hazcaddy
As someone who has spent 30 years responding lights-and-siren all over a big city (2.5M residents), I can tell you that you do not have time to look at any screen. All your attention is taken up with driving, anticipating what other drivers will do, and thinking about what you're going to be faced with at your destination.

The only thing you would be able to do at speed or in heavy traffic is listening to turn-by-turn instructions, and even that has to compete with radio traffic relating to your call.


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