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Does any USB GPS work with Windows 10 offline maps?
Boyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
Don't hold your breath...
Yeah... I'll bet the market for external PC gps devices has gotten very small, and there's little incentive to update an old device. But I wonder if bluetooth devices are better off? They are still used with phones/tablets at least.
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boyd
Yeah... I'll bet the market for external PC gps devices has gotten very small, and there's little incentive to update an old device. But I wonder if bluetooth devices are better off? They are still used with phones/tablets at least.
I should fire up my i.TrekM7 and see if there are updated drivers for it.

...ken...
GoneNomad
Looks like GlobalSAT *did* make a Win10 compatible receiver...

https://www.amazon.com/GlobalSat-05-BU353-W10-Location-Sensor-Windows/dp/B07676QJQZ
...but it's not available on Amazon as of now. Latest reviews are several months old.

Description mentions "u-box M8M GNSS" which must be what Terry was talking about.
(They spelled it as above but it's supposed to be u-blox...)

This would fill the gap that exists because most non-LTE-connected Windows devices don't have built-in GPS.

Info from one of the Amazon Q&As:
"Based on what I can see without actually busting the devices open: The BU353-S4 uses a SiRF Star IV GPS chip with a Prolific serial-to-USB convertor that runs at 4800 BPS. The BU353-W10 uses a Ublox M8030 GPS chip that runs at 9600 BPS. The Ublox chip has *two* RF stages (effectively, two radios) so that it receives both GPS (U.S.) and GLONASS (Russia) systems simultaneously. Besides providing more accurate fixes, this also makes it possible for the Ublox to detect spoofing if one system differs in fix from the other. The Ublox can also be configured via its proprietary UBX messaging to detect jamming. The UBX binary messages can also provide a lot for information than the vanilla NMEA sentences that both devices produce by default."
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Boyd
Speaking of bluetooth devices, I recently noticed that Garmin updated the GLO to the GLO 2. Damned if I can find anything different about it from looking at the specs though.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/645104

Maybe the only difference is that they include a 6 month subscription to their aviation software?

Would the GLO be compatible with Win 10? Not that I care... don't have a Windows 10 computer, and wouldn't use it with a GPS even if I did, LOL.
tcassidy
The GLO does not work directly with Win 10 as far as providing location information except to a COM port.

Terry
tcassidy
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Originally Posted by Stormchaser
I use a Hotspot, but yeah I made sure I wasn't connected to the internet. Windows maps is the only navigation program I could get to work with it. Tried several apps with no luck. But that's fine.
You may want to go to the location settings and make sure it is turned on for the programs you want to try with the GPS.

Terry
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Ken in Regina
I don't know if this, in combination with Terry's tip about making sure you have access to Location turned on in Windows, will help anyone:

"This driver will work with USB, Serial and IP based GPS and windows 10.

http://www.turboirc.com/gps7/

I used this driver too and now have full voice navigation on my WIN 10 laptop using an older USB GPS. You can download the driver for free and test its function with the maps app using the simulation mode. The documentation is useful although a bit sparse. It took me about 30 minutes to figure it out. The driver takes the COM port GPS data and feeds it to the WIN 10 Location Service - which the Maps App uses. Once I saw that it worked in simulation, I spent the $10 (reasonable developer fee IMHO) and now the Maps App is giving me useful voice prompt navigation. There are still occasional problems (Voice disappears or repeats directions) but I really need the offline maps function that Microsoft made so simple to use, so I put up with the occasional reset."

...ken...
tcassidy
Ken,

That link goes to GPSComplete. Is there some other part that I am missing. I have never seen a section that askes for a payment so feel I must be missing something.

Terry
GoneNomad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
I don't know if this, in combination with Terry's tip about making sure you have access to Location turned on in Windows, will help anyone:

"This driver will work with USB, Serial and IP based GPS and windows 10.

http://www.turboirc.com/gps7/

I used this driver too and now have full voice navigation on my WIN 10 laptop using an older USB GPS. You can download the driver for free and test its function with the maps app using the simulation mode. The documentation is useful although a bit sparse. It took me about 30 minutes to figure it out. The driver takes the COM port GPS data and feeds it to the WIN 10 Location Service - which the Maps App uses. Once I saw that it worked in simulation, I spent the $10 (reasonable developer fee IMHO) and now the Maps App is giving me useful voice prompt navigation. There are still occasional problems (Voice disappears or repeats directions) but I really need the offline maps function that Microsoft made so simple to use, so I put up with the occasional reset."

...ken...
I saw this in the Amazon Q&A for the BU-353-W1 (comparing it to the older S4 version):

"The S4 need an aftermarket driver since windows 10 does not support a USB GPS. The aftermarket driver works, but seems slow and lagging behind in location. The W10 comes with a driver that works well and loads automatic, whereas the S4 driver has to be loaded/started manually. Maybe I am not too smart, but I had issues with the S4 driver. For a Windows 10 installation, I would go with the W10 which works very well."

Ken - if the "aftermarket driver" he's talking about is GPSComplete, does that seem similar to your experience with it?
Ken in Regina
I shared that only because it illustrates that someone has/had it working with Windows Maps, which uses the Win10 Location sensor, at one time.

It has been a very long time since I played with GPSComplete so I don't recall any of the details of what I encountered. I expect they were posted in here somewhere at the time. Seems to me Terry and I were messing with it at the same time. It was long enough ago that there was a trial period for free, then you had to pay for it. So I breezed right past that part in his post.

...ken...
GoneNomad
Not surprisingly, I forgot all about those posts from 2016...

I forgot that GPS Gate is a different product from a different developer than GPS Complete.
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Ken in Regina
I went through the whole thread and it appears I did some fairly comprehensive testing at the time, including a walk around the block with my BU353-S4 and Surface Pro 3 with Windows Maps app and S&T happily tracking me. I published the specific recipe that worked for me at the time, including what order to run things.

I don't recall if there were any magic incantations or gestures (probably the kind that are accompanied by blue smoke out the ears!).

...ken...
werdnanostaw
Quote:
Originally Posted by tcassidy
I seem to recall the UBlox 7 can do that.

Terry
Yes it can.

By default it does Location Sensor output.

u-blox 7 GPS/GNSS Location Sensor

You have to download the VCP (Virtual Com Port) driver to use it as a standard GPS.

u-blox Virtual COM port

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https://www.u-blox.com/en/product-resources/property_file_product_filter/14432
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