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GPS Receiver: Bluetooth or USB?
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
An OTG adapter is merely a cord with a male micro USB connector on one end and a female USB A connector on the other end. You would use this cord to connect the standard USB GPS to the tablet.

Terry
OTG is not quite just a cord with a male micro USB connector on one end and a female USB A connector on the other end. The pin-out is slightly different than a "non-OTG" micro-to-A gender/adapter cable (which are also available).

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Originally Posted by wikipedia
"An OTG cable has a micro-A plug on one end, and a micro-B plug on the other end (it cannot have two plugs of the same type). OTG adds a fifth pin to the standard USB connector, called the ID-pin; the micro-A plug has the ID pin grounded, while the ID in the micro-B plug is floating. A device with a micro-A plug inserted becomes an OTG A-device, and a device with a micro-B plug inserted becomes a B-device. The type of plug inserted is detected by the state of the pin ID."
ref.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
As a practical matter, it's not really significant, since probably 90% will just use their smartphone, and of the remainder, maybe half will use a tablet, and of that small group, maybe 99.99% would just get one with good internal GPS, and that's that.

Only the real hard core fanatics (0.000001%) want to use something like Win10 maps on a 13"+ device for their navigation.
That would be me and if it doesn't have at least TWO, preferably THREE full-size USB-A ports, I probably won't buy it.

If and when Logitech starts making USB-C Unifying receivers, THEN I'll think about one of those Ultrabooks that have only USB-C ports. I'm not buying an Ultrabook for its compactness only to have to hang a USB adapter dongle on it in order to use the mouse & keyboard that I'm used to and that I've come to strongly prefer.

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tcassidy
Not sure about the description but both my OTG cords are male micro to female regular USB. I knew there was more going on but it wasn't important when I got them.

Terry
tcassidy
Reminding me about the NuVision, I had to try it with GPS Complete and an ITrek M7 BT GPS. Thanks!

Terry
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werdnanostaw
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneNomad
OTG is not quite just a cord with a male micro USB connector on one end and a female USB A connector on the other end. The pin-out is slightly different than a "non-OTG" micro-to-A gender/adapter cable (which are also available).



As a practical matter, it's not really significant, since probably 90% will just use their smartphone, and of the remainder, maybe half will use a tablet, and of that small group, maybe 99.99% would just get one with good internal GPS, and that's that.

Only the real hard core fanatics (0.000001%) want to use something like Win10 maps on a 13"+ device for their navigation.
That would be me and if it doesn't have at least TWO, preferably THREE full-size USB-A ports, I probably won't buy it.

If and when Logitech starts making USB-C Unifying receivers, THEN I'll think about one of those Ultrabooks that have only USB-C ports. I'm not buying an Ultrabook for its compactness only to have to hang a USB adapter dongle on it in order to use the mouse & keyboard that I'm used to and that I've come to strongly prefer.

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I'm not buying an Ultrabook for its compactness only to have to hang a USB adapter dongle on it in order to use the mouse & keyboard that I'm used to and that I've come to strongly prefer.


I have started using magnetic USB connectors on our 2 Android phones, the Lenovo Miix 510 tablet PC that has 1 USB-3 and 1 USB-C and on the USB powered radio that my partner uses in bed.

They make plugging in the phones very quick and easy - you don't have to work out which way up they go and then try and get them into the micro hole. The part that stays in the phones is small and flat and doesn't detract from the look of the phone or get in the way. I did have to do some microsurgery with a scalpel on the USB hole in the silicone case of one phone to get it to fit.

On the tablet PC I can plug in a GPS in the car and then I don't have to worry about damaging the USB port if the tablet gets "femalehandled" on my partner's lap. The primary GPS we use is BT so this isn't a big issue.

With the radio, which is battery powered, if my partner rolls onto the radio the USB power gets disconnected but the port or plug don't get damaged.

This is something new that the techno boffins may wish to buy. I'm sure you're like me and are always on the lookout for a new toy to buy. They are very cheap so they shouldn't upset the "accountant".
tcassidy
I remember reading about something of that nature several years ago on a tablet site. Certainly a great idea for my Dell tablet with its gibbled connector. I have never actually seen one though. Maybe they never made it to Canada not being close enough to China.

Terry
werdnanostaw
My USB plug-in bit is flatter than the one shown in the video but because of that you have to be careful to align the 2 pieces properly.

You may wish to view other videos on the Techmoan web site as they cover a lot of interesting current and retro techno toys.

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2016/8/17/magnetic-usb-cables.html

An eBay search for USB magnetic gives lots of hits starting from AUD1.
Ken in Regina
Here's a micro USB magnetic cable.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MAZ70QN/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1977604502&pf_rd_s=lpo-...H3XVS890NP1Y3GKYF1A5

There are others at varying prices and ratings linked from that page.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
Here's a micro USB magnetic cable.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MAZ70QN/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_2?pf_rd_p=1977604502&pf_rd_s=lpo-...H3XVS890NP1Y3GKYF1A5

There are others at varying prices and ratings linked from that page.

...ken...
You can also order just the plug-in heads for some of them so you can use a single cable with multiple devices without having to move the micro-USB pluged-in piece.

...ken...
werdnanostaw
Mucho expensivo (muy caro actually according to GTrans) at CDN18.

One feature it appears to have that would be very useful is that the LED on it only lights up when the connection is made properly. The LED on my el cheapo version is on all the time.
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by werdnanostaw
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneNomad
I'm not buying an Ultrabook for its compactness only to have to hang a USB adapter dongle on it in order to use the mouse & keyboard that I'm used to and that I've come to strongly prefer.
I have started using magnetic USB connectors...
While magnetic connectors make it easier to plug & unplug, just to clarify: they won't reduce the need for full-size USB-A port for a Logitech Unifying receiver (or similar) that needs to stay plugged in all the time... in order to use the mouse & keyboard that I'm used to.
werdnanostaw
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Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
I guess should have expanded that a bit. I meant the question literally. If you go on the route you have planned for your own purposes what would be the closest point on it to Regina. My thinking is if the timing works, the weather is decent, and not too terribly far it could be a good excuse for a bike trip.

...ken...
I have booked motels in LAX, San Diego, Blythe and Sedona. That gets us beyond the long weekend so hopefully the CGs at Grand Canyon will have cleared. If they haven't there is BLM land with free camping when you leave the eastern end of the NP. We will try and camp as much as we can in the NPs.

We will be car camping. We will get a rental car with a reasonably flat boot (trunk) + fold down back seats (we will build up the rise with cut down cardboard boxes filled with clothes if necessary) and get an IKEA or Walmart mattress, sheets, blankets and pillows - they will get donated to motel cleaning staff in LA before we leave as we have done previously.

We will have nylon mesh to go over the windows so we can get fresh air while keeping the small bities (mossies, midgies) out.

I have bought a twist foldup shower / toilet / change tent that I will add a tarpaulin sleeve to that will connect it to the tailgate seal of the car using bulldog clips. I have assured Christine that it will keep the big bities (bears) out but she's not convinced. We won't use it in bear country.

That said, people camp in tents in bear country but I like having a steel and glass box around us. Of course, I've seen the videos at the NP Info Centres that show bears pulling the doors out of vehicles so camping in a vehicle still has risks.

The point of this rambling post is to say that I don't know where we'll be at any time so I don't know when we will be "passing underneath" Regina. I will contact you via PM once we are on the road with an update.
Ken in Regina
Sounds like a fun plan. I'm curious... It sounds like a minivan would be better suited to such use, wouldn't it?

I'll look forward to hearing from you as you are rolling.

...ken...
werdnanostaw
Here in Australia we car camp in a Subaru Forester AWD with low range (that has got us out of several sticky, literally, situations). In Europe we always lease a Renault Clio Estate. Both of them are large enough for us to put a mattress in the back.

Our setup in Oz is a bit more sophisticated. We have an awning on the side of the car. When we camp we remove it and attach it across the rear of the car so it goes over the tailgate. There is a 2.5m square mosquito net enclosure that attaches under the awning. There are rain / wind / sun / privacy walls. I have made a sleeve that connects it to the tailgate.

We remove the back seat base and back. There is a bed that stands about 250mm above boot floor.

The mattress folds down behind the front seats during the day. At night there is a "table" that fills the gap between the fixed bed and the back of the front seats.

In the space where seat was we store water and other large items such as table and chairs. We carry 40L of water and 4L of petrol for the Coleman dual fuel stove.

We have drawers that pull out from the back of the vehicle that contain a stove, cooking utensils, crockery and cutlery and clothes.

We have a shower tent. We boil 1L of water that we add to 1L of cold water in an OJ bottle with a handle. This is sufficient for a good wash though Christine uses 4L when she washes her hair.

I have made window covers out of coreflute that fill the window space. There are fold out awnings with side flaps with mosquito net over the openings that allow us to have the windows open in all weather (unless there is a gale that blows out the window covers).

We are considering getting a new vehicle but even though we thought about getting a campervan or a slide-on on the back of a ute (pickup) we will probably stick with our tried and true camping technique.

When we are in Oregon we plan to visit the Alaskan Campers factory because I like the idea of a hard sided, low profile, popup roof, slide on camper:

http://alaskancampers.com/

I have devised solutions to provide all the functions needed for a comfortable life on the road while living in a standard car, such as:

* sleeping
* cooking
* weather and insect protection
* clothes washing and drying
* body washing
* entertainment

so we prefer the ease of travel and parking and fuel economy of a mid-sized (by Australian standards) vehicle.
GoneNomad
Andrew, FYI: you can rent 4WD SUVs here in the US fairly easily.
You might even be able to rent a Subaru or an AWD Toyota Sienna minivan.

Gas is pretty cheap here now...
http://www.stlouisgasprices.com
Those < $2.00 prices you see are per US gallon, BTW
so even a full-size Tahoe/Yukon/Explorer SUV wouldn't be too costly to drive.
werdnanostaw
FYI we bought fuel a few days ago for AUD 1.05/L = USD 0.79/L = CAD 1.06/L

1L = 0.26 US gallon (that's a simple conversion - like 25(.4)mm = 1 inch

Therefore, AUD 1.05/L = 0.79/0.26 = USD 3.16/US gallon

Our vehicle gets 8L/100km = 29 miles/US gallon

8*1.05/100 = AUD 8.4 cents/km = USD 6.3 cents/km

1 km = 0.62 miles

6.3/0.62 = USD 10.1 cents/mile

The 4 vehicles discussed below seem to be the most common ones available from car rental companies at LAX.

On our two previous trips we had Chevy HHRs. We are hoping we can get a Chevy Trax this time. They are available in Oz as the Holden Trax so I have been able to look at one. I like it because it has a flat floor when the back seats are folded down and the seat base is removed and it is 1.8m from back of front seats to inside of tailgate.

I have also checked out the Mitsubishi Mirage and the Toyota Corolla Hatch. They are OK. I do not want a Chevy Aveo (Holden Barina). It is too short.
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