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Sad news about GMTK author "JaVaWa"
Boyd
This message appears on his website. http://www.javawa.nl/anderstalig.html

"Recently I have had a stroke. This means I will not be able to respond in the near future. I hope you will understand this."

There's a little more information in Dutch on the homepage. Here's a Google translation

"In November 2016 I was attacked by a stroke. It's going to be a lot better with me, but it has lasting consequences for, in particular, the programs found on my site. In the past, I was often late to program late in the evening, but it's over now. It takes too much mental effort. The software remains available, but no updates will appear.
Especially the Mac users will suffer from this (myself too), as the programs (in most cases) are no longer working under Mac OS Sierra and newer.

I'm sorry, but unfortunately it's no different. I hope you can understand this."

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Hope he recovers soon, his excellent software is used by people all over the world.
Ken in Regina
Thanks for sharing the news Boyd. That is sad to hear. I guess a lot of us are reaching an age where these things are starting to happen. At least there is something to be said for operating system backwards compatibility for us Windows folks.

...ken...
Boyd
Yes, "there but for the grace of God go I"...

Also a sad sign of the times, I seriously doubt that anyone will step up to fill the void when it comes to Garmin utilities. Just another reminder that the sun is slowly setting on Garmin.
Ken in Regina
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Yes, "there but for the grace of God go I"...

Also a sad sign of the times, I seriously doubt that anyone will step up to fill the void when it comes to Garmin utilities. Just another reminder that the sun is slowly setting on Garmin.
They seem to be preoccupied with creating and selling all kinds of new devices and don't seem to have a lot of interest in software to support using them beyond the basic functions provided on the devices themselves. If they do decide to do something to replace Mapsource/Basecamp functions it will likely be a web app so they don't have to worry about supporting various operating systems and their quirks from version to version.

...ken...
Boyd
They really botched the rollout of the GPSMap 276cx, their flagship off-road device that costs $700. Many if not most of the early adopters have returned it because of sluggish performance - 57 page thread on this site: http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/garmin-announces-the-new-gpsmap-276cx.1178312/page-57

The most remarkable thing is the post from a user in Spain where Garmin told them that using third party maps would void their warranty. No sign of Garmin doing that in North America yet, but it makes you wonder. Here is a google translation of the Spanish e-mail that user received. Makes me think Garmin has a suicidal tendency... the availability of free maps is one of the main things that drives sales of their devices as opposed to Magellan, for example.
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"Installed Cartography: Please note that the use of non-Garmin mappings may lead to malfunction of the unit, in case of receiving the equipment and a malfunction due to it, a charge of 1 hour of labor will be charged (€ 55 + VAT) for equipment inspection expenses for an item outside Garmin, since this failure is not due to a defect of origin or of the product itself."

"...be aware that inserting maps other than Garmin will lead to the loss of the warranty."
GoneNomad
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...Just another reminder that the sun is slowly setting on Garmin.
Speaking of which, over the weekend I just happened to fiddle with a Garmin 61 a little bit at a local BestBuy (where it was "on sale" for $270).

I was sort of pleasantly surprised that its address entry line managed to find a city in Oregon when I entered just the city name & state name, even though it was asking to search for locations nearby. So that feature (which I'm sure Boyd and others have mentioned before) was nice.

But it was soooooo slooooooow to calculate that 1,700 mile route that I couldn't believe it. Took at least 45 seconds for the first of the two choices to show up (but it was far from done at that point).

And then it committed the grievous sin for what is supposed to be the top dog in standalone PNDS: it screwed up the default route from St. Louis to Oregon, routing about 70 miles out of the way by going through Omaha, NE. That's a proble, and one, and one that it shares with the TomTom app, which up until now I thought was an anomaly for one of the Big 3 PND brands.

I don't think even the last two versions of S&T did that.

The good news is, that Garmin 61 also had a way to manually alter the route by pointing to a spot on the map, which is nice... if you catch the defect on the relatively small screen.

Better off not having to fix the problem.

Anyway, now that Win10 Maps has multipoint routing, not much need for serious navigators to even consider anythning from Garmin, or TomTom (even if it's an app).

The Garmin 61 has a 6 inch screen.

Stop and think about what kind of tablet you can buy for how much less than that. And what else you can also do with that tablet, like get LTE connectivity. All for well under $200. (e.g.: LG GPad X 8.0 LTE)

If it weren't for Garmin's high-end products for aviation, etc., they'd be headed out faster than they ultimately will be.
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packforkids
The best part of owning a Garmin device is the ability to use Mapsource, bootcamp, map install, etc. Even though, it is cheaper to maintain web based programs it is not an improvement for the consumer. I am very disappointed to hear the direction Garmin is choosing to follow. I have been a member of this website, and a few others, for years! And will continue until it too is obsolete. Hopefully it will never happen.
Boyd
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I have been a member of this website, and a few others, for years!
Then why does your profile say you just joined a week ago?

Regarding Garmin, after five months they still have not released an update to fix the serious problems with Basecamp/MapInstall. The current version cannot install maps on a GPS device. If you send a map, everything appears to be fine but there is no detail when you view it on the GPS.

http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/5770-problems-basecamp-4-7-0-update#post52984

The issue has been well documented and it seems pretty clear that Garmin just doesn't care. They no longer sell any maps that require installation in this fashion. So I guess there's no incentive for them to fix the problem.
packforkids
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Originally Posted by Boyd
Then why does your profile say you just joined a week ago?

Regarding Garmin, after five months they still have not released an update to fix the serious problems with Basecamp/MapInstall. The current version cannot install maps on a GPS device. If you send a map, everything appears to be fine but there is no detail when you view it on the GPS.

http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/5770-problems-basecamp-4-7-0-update#post52984

The issue has been well documented and it seems pretty clear that Garmin just doesn't care. They no longer sell any maps that require installation in this fashion. So I guess there's no incentive for them to fix the problem.
I assure you I did not join a week ago. Although it may appear that way. In the past I have owned a handful of Garmin Nuvi devices, such as: 255w, 1300, 1497, 40, 50. And the lastest driveassist 51. This website and a few others helped me understand each device, provided maps, and access to great tutorials that I could not find anywhere else.

Yet, upon my recent return I could not reactivate my profile as I remembered it. It was one error message after another when entering the id name & password. To make it easier I created another one. My old Id name was packforkids. The new Id name is packforkids1. I am open to looking into reactivating the old profile. That would be great.
Boyd
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My old Id name was packforkids. The new Id name is packforkids1
Ah... that explains it. Thanks, and all the best for the holidays!
Marvin Hlavac
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My old Id name was packforkids. The new Id name is packforkids1. I am open to looking into reactivating the old profile. That would be great.


Done!

packforkids
Thanks Marvin & Boyd for all your help! Did I say this website & the members are great? Saying it now ��
Happy New Year!
packforkids
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Originally Posted by Boyd
Then why does your profile say you just joined a week ago?

Regarding Garmin, after five months they still have not released an update to fix the serious problems with Basecamp/MapInstall. The current version cannot install maps on a GPS device. If you send a map, everything appears to be fine but there is no detail when you view it on the GPS.

http://www.laptopgpsworld.com/5770-problems-basecamp-4-7-0-update#post52984

The issue has been well documented and it seems pretty clear that Garmin just doesn't care. They no longer sell any maps that require installation in this fashion. So I guess there's no incentive for them to fix the problem.
Sorry Boyd, I just now noticed there was a second part to your post. The part I am addressing,
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Regarding Garmin, after five months they still have not released an update to fix the serious problems with Basecamp/MapInstall. The current version cannot install maps on a GPS device. If you send a map, everything appears to be fine but there is no detail when you view it on the GPS.
Thank you for bringing this very valuable information to my attention. Upon purchasing my latest device and subsequent return to this website, a thread pertaining to this problem caught my attention. Immediately I downloaded the old versions of mapsource, map install, and basecamp as instructed. For years I had a weird fascination with Garmin devices that I can't explain. Using software that I am accustomed is something I don't want to change. Even if there is an easier way to accomplish the same task- I rather stick to the old way- it is a lot more fun! Lastly, it is only possible because of a member who had the foresight to keep the old software available for people like me. Including, the smart people who finds the problems and posts the solutions. Like you Boyd. Indeed, your contribution is valuable!
Boyd
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Lastly, it is only possible because of a member who had the foresight to keep the old software available for people like me.
Thanks, glad I could help. But unfortunately, something else just came to my attention about that archive of old Garmin software at gawisp.com/perry and it's not good. That site has evidently been hacked. If you go to gawisp.com (DON'T DO THIS YOURSELF) you are re-directed to a very questionable place and it immediately tried to fool me into downloading a bogus update to Adobe Flash. This is a common method of distributing malware.

This raises concerns about the whole site. I don't know anything about who owns that site or how it is maintained. I've used it extensively in the past with no problems, but am not going to post any more links there.

Use it at your own risk, and make sure you have good anti-virus software!
Ken in Regina
Thanks for the heads up, Boyd. Fortunately I have saved pretty much all of the older stuff that I need (not a lot) from their Garmin area. After reading your post I've put a copy of the more common files into my public folder on Google Drive. Here's the link for anyone who needs something. I'll add a text file with a bit of description of each file or folder one of these days.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Sk-9Z0hNcHBqVaNW0Io9a8Gl1bRRMiK4?usp=sharing

Anyone who has any interest please pop over there, take a look and let me know if the link works. Thanks.

I hope you all have a happy and healthy 2019.

...ken...
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