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Copilot RV on Win7-64 laptop?
matt
Does anybody know if the current CoPilot RV can be run on a Windows 7-64 laptop?
That is what my traveling computer is and as long as it works, I want to keep it.
I think I have put off beating up Delorme long enough.

Matt
tcassidy
What do you consider as the current CoPilot. The only ones I've seen are CoPilot Truck which does run on Win 7 but is expensive. I have seen the $19.99 CoPilot for Windows advertised but haven't tried it recently as I am having licencing issues with a copy I already own. Couldn't swear whether it works on Win 7 or not but I think so. ALK is a little short on info.

https://copilotgps.com/en-us/getcopilot/windows/

Terry
tcassidy
Seeing as I still had a link to my download of the basic 19.99 product, I checked to see what was listed. I have included a screen cap of part of it showing it will work with Win 7 64 bit.

Terry
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GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by matt
Does anybody know if the current CoPilot RV can be run on a Windows 7-64 laptop?
That is what my traveling computer is and as long as it works, I want to keep it.
I think I have put off beating up Delorme long enough.

Matt
CoPilot RV is available on Android & iOS only.

There is no CoPilot RV for Windows. Just the 'regular' and 'truck' versions.

AFAIK, CoPilot RV is still at version 9.x, whereas the newest version is v10.x, which has a significantly revamped UI compared to v9.x.

FWIW, the 'regular' CoPilot is one of very few basic nav apps that has an RV vehicle type, though it only allows a choice of two heights and no lengths, both of which are customizable on the RV version. There are a few other differences. Here's a comparison chart:


No version of CoPilot for Windows is currently at v10.x and there is no free upgrade path for the Windows versions either, unlike the mobile OS versions.

According to their 8/10/17 blog post, CoPilot Truck is now at v 10.x (presumably Android/iOS only).

One way to tell if CoPilot is at version 10 is if shows a screencap with a progress bar on the right side, e.g.:
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
...I am having licencing issues with a copy I already own....
Terry
I can relate to that. Their licensing scheme is way too complicated. Too often, their website fails to make new activations happen automatically, ending up requiring intervention by their less-than-stellar customer service. Among other problems for multi-platform users, a different email address & different "CoPilot account" is required for each copy, making management more difficult than it should be. Should be able to register multiple copies to the *SAME* CoPilot account.
DieselBoss
I call it version 9B to differentiate it from the original version 9 because ALK's version number system is very confusing.

CoPilot laptop truck with RV mode for Windows


The Truck version lately always has RV mode as part of it, thus no separate "RV only" version. 9B came out as a free upgrade in 2016 to the first version 9 from 2013. Version 9 TRUCK came out as a free upgrade for anyone who had a valid version 8 TRUCK product key.

The Android and IOS TRUCK version also has RV mode.

I cannot report to you how effective the RV mode of these latest iterations is in the real world because I deal mainly with the truck folks. But it is there in the CoPilot TRUCK versions for Windows, iOS, and Android.

As the nation moves more and more to mobile OS devices, I cannot say if ALK will invest further in a Windows version down the road, but at least for now the Windows one did get updated last year.

As far as licensing issues, I can have product keys reset within one hour during ALK east coast working hours. Conversely, if a user is running an SSD hard drive and a proper anti-virus, they almost never crash and can simply activate / deactivate / move CoPilot at will themselves by clicking the "My CoPilot" menu inside.
DieselBoss
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt
Does anybody know if the current CoPilot RV can be run on a Windows 7-64 laptop?
That is what my traveling computer is and as long as it works, I want to keep it.
I think I have put off beating up Delorme long enough.

Matt
Yes, CoPilot Truck with RV mode works on Windows 7, 8, and 10. (NOT on Windows RT or Vista)
tcassidy
Diesel Boss, I wouldn't mind trying CoPilot Truck for Windows. However you said some time ago that ALK was not updating their maps for this product. I note the cheap version maps are moderately up to date listing 2017-4 but whether they offer updates I don't know.

Has the situation changed for the Truck version?

Terry
DieselBoss
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
Diesel Boss, I wouldn't mind trying CoPilot Truck for Windows. However you said some time ago that ALK was not updating their maps for this product. I note the cheap version maps are moderately up to date listing 2017-4 but whether they offer updates I don't know.

Has the situation changed for the Truck version?

Terry
ALK is unpredictable in terms of Windows versions now. I don't think that almighty God could tell you what the future holds for the Windows version. All I can say is that they came out with a 2016 Windows update out of the blue for us and we made a lot of truckers happy (those who do not want to switch off their laptops.) They had gone 4 years prior to that update, so I could only tell the drivers that ALK has not shared with us whether there would ever be an update, until there was. (late 2016 - Q3 maps, so fairly new in the world of GPS maps, but not as current as mobile versions)

All Android and iOS versions (including the "Truck" version which contains RV mode) continue to get map updates every 90 days or so.

PS - their web site and charts do not always reflect all of these nuances
GoneNomad
FWIW, the RV vehicle type ("RV Mode") in CoPilot Truck has most (if not all) the features in CoPilot RV because the latter is basically a subset of the former, lacking the trucking specific functions & features.

So on that basis, the RV vehicle type ("RV Mode") in CoPilot Truck could reasonably be considered the functional equivalent of CoPilot RV, but at a much higher price: CoPilot RV (Android) is currently $34.99 (regularly $49.99), and CoPilot Truck (Android) is $149.99 (not on sale now, and rarely ever is). If someone wants a Windows version of CoPilot RV, that's about the only way to get there, if it's worth the much higher price.

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Boyd
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Originally Posted by matt
A 5 decade navigator trying to work with the newest tools.
Time to either get a tablet or change your .signature!
tcassidy
However, if you want to try it in Windows, it is not worth getting the truck version to start. Delorme had no RV features that I recall so you could easily determine whether CoPilot was even worth trying for a measly $20. If it does the things you need then you can consider spending the big bucks to tailor it for your RV use!

Terry
matt
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Originally Posted by Boyd
Time to either get a tablet or change your .signature!
Boyd,
This is for the individual manning the navigator's seat while we are underway. So, real time GPS input is essential. I have not found a tablet that has a real (at least 12 channel track and sensitivity to work through a vehicle roof) GPS. A tablet with a 15" screen can be had for slightly less than my mortgage. This is all easy to do with any laptop.
As the navigator frequently is required to do web searches underway, a keyboard is a real asset. This is possible only if we are on the blue roads. As soon as the information is confirmed, we will probably head for more comfortable roads.
Boyd
Not sure what your vehicle is, but I'd think you'd be able to find a good place to mount a bluetooth receiver. I have a Garmin GLO and have been very impressed all around. Works with Android, iOS, Windows and MacOSX.

Really just teasing you.... but I suspect very few people would consider a Windows 7 laptop one of the "latest tools", and your software options are severely limited compared to either iOS or Android.

I fly solo, no navigator needed.
matt
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Originally Posted by tcassidy
However, if you want to try it in Windows, it is not worth getting the truck version to start. Delorme had no RV features that I recall so you could easily determine whether CoPilot was even worth trying for a measly $20. If it does the things you need then you can consider spending the big bucks to tailor it for your RV use!

Terry
While Delorme did not have RV features, it was a great planning package and with the overlays available from the Discovery owners site, there was nothing you could not add - easily. I really don't care if it is an RV package. We have brain capacity to handle a lot of that. My problem with buying the truck package is that it is the cost is a whole lot to find out if it works for us. I had not seen the 20$us Consumer package. At that price I might give it a go. It says it is available for Windows, (I wish it were Linux). This whole affair has me annoyed with all those involved.
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