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Copilot RV on Win7-64 laptop?
GoneNomad
I've been playing with and testing Co-pilot for somewhere around six years.
I wish I had all those hours back.

My advice is, don't waste any more of your time on CoPilot, unless you absolutely need one of the few features it offers that the general purpose apps don't have (usually, something trucking specific, and for that, there is ONE20, which derived from CoPilot, and is also free)

Especially since the combination of S&T2013 & Win10 maps works so much better, without any registration hassle, and is free.
matt
Nomad,

Thank You

I am going to take your advice. I have set up to look at one20, but I can already see that it will have a hard time getting me what I had with SA.

I very much appreciate your effort.

Matt Colie
GoneNomad
I tried out Street Atlas several times, and although IIRC it had a couple of features I did like compared to S&T, the overall clunkiness of SA's UI is IMO even worse than the last versions of S&T, and the map data even more outdated.

For trip planning, CoPilot isn't all that useful (and ONE20 is no better), and ALK's unnecessarily complicated and unreliable activation/registration scheme just throws up another hurdle. At this point, with a free version of S&T2013 readily available, the choice seems pretty clear. I'd suggest reading a few posts that start here. I tried it. It works without any problems.
matt
All of my friends can get SA2015. Yes, the UI is clunky, but the power is amazing. I can plan a massive tout and know where we should plan to ONP and fuel. Better than that is that when the plan turns to 5h1t on the third day (at best), the fact that it is on the navigator's screen, makes that a big non-issue.
I'm going to bed - thanx

Mattt
GoneNomad
I'm not sure if there's any trip planning task that SA can do that S&T can't.
They are pretty similar in that respect.
IIRC, one feature that SA had that S&T does not is that ability to view the same trip in multiple view levels at the same time. S&T will not do that. But the only reason I'd use that is so I could see route overview and a greatly zoomed in view around the current location, and using S&T along with Win10 Maps accomplishes that. Both local search and the navigation functionality of Win10 Maps are already way better than either SA or S&T, neither of which will ever benefit from updated maps going forward.

The main downside to having to use two different programs is moving the addresses back & forth, but the best workflow would use S&T for trip planning the rough locations (like zip code to zip code) and Win10 Maps for navigation to the specific POIs/addresses.

As my recent post here shows, a modern app like Win10 Maps that is being actively updated by a major company like Microsoft is going to have a huge advantage as time goes by over older apps like SA or S&T, and in many cases, even over it's nearest competitors, as it seems that even google is losing ground to Microsoft in this case.
Padraic
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt
All of my friends can get SA2015. Yes, the UI is clunky, but the power is amazing. I can plan a massive tout and know where we should plan to ONP and fuel. Better than that is that when the plan turns to 5h1t on the third day (at best), the fact that it is on the navigator's screen, makes that a big non-issue.
I'm going to bed - thanx

Mattt
Hi Matt, "All of my friends can get SA2015." Could you share?
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