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Boyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
Trying to get an Android app to accept input from an external GPS is a hit and miss proposition; mostly miss and not much hit.
Did you personally have problems with this? Have not heard about any problems using the free Bluetooth GPS app. Works great with my GLO and Samsung tablet (which also has an internal GPS). Also worked great in my previous Dell Android tablet which didn't have an internal GPS chip. See this Garmin FAQ, it is very straightforward to set it up and should work pretty much the same for any brand of Bluetooth GPS. Of course, you would have to spend around $100 to buy the bluetooth gps device. But they are going to be much better than an internal GPS chip.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=Mi8TKRtjWe6Cp4hwKvwFH7&productID=109827&searchQuery=android

However, as we covered earlier, if a tablet does not have an internal GPS chip, a number of apps from Google Play cannot even be installed because the developers require that the device has an internal chip. I recall that ALK was one of those apps.
ron4adams
Is the speaker loud enough to hear over road noise, or is it simple to get navigation voice through the bluetooth to my rv sound system (which has bluetooth)? I have already placed this in my amazon shopping cart so am one click away from making my decision. Next, I will need some additional instructions on the interface between the tomtom trip planner and the tomtom app for multi-stop trips. Please don't quite this forum yet!
Boyd
I don't know how loud your speaker is, how noisy your vehicle is, or how your bluetooth system works, so how could I possibly answer? However my last three cars have been very simple to use with my phone. The first time you do it, you will need to pair the tablet with the audio system, but after that it should happen automatically. Now where you may have an issue is that when you are using the bluetooth connection you won't be able to use your radio or other audio features of the vehicle without manually switching back and forth.

But I just hate voice prompts so all my navigation apps and devices are permanently muted.
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boyd
Did you personally have problems with this? Have not heard about any problems using the free Bluetooth GPS app. Works great with my GLO and Samsung tablet (which also has an internal GPS). Also worked great in my previous Dell Android tablet which didn't have an internal GPS chip. See this Garmin FAQ, it is very straightforward to set it up and should work pretty much the same for any brand of Bluetooth GPS. Of course, you would have to spend around $100 to buy the bluetooth gps device. But they are going to be much better than an internal GPS chip.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=Mi8TKRtjWe6Cp4hwKvwFH7&productID=109827&searchQuery=android

However, as we covered earlier, if a tablet does not have an internal GPS chip, a number of apps from Google Play cannot even be installed because the developers require that the device has an internal chip. I recall that ALK was one of those apps.
Yes, I have tried. I've tried it with a single tablet (Google Nexus 9) and a few typical nav apps that happened to be installable. I'm sorry I did not catalog the apps I tried and the results so I don't recall which they were. I just recall being quite frustrated and disappointed.

I tried this test with multiple GPS units as well - Garmin 10x Bluetooth, i.Trek M7 Bluetooth, and a GlobalSat BU353S4 wired - with the same results. If an app isn't available to download to a device without GPS, connecting one won't change that. If an app on the device doesn't know how to find an external device it doesn't matter which one is connected .. with one limitation I was not aware of at the time ....

... I was not aware of the Bluetooth GPS app referenced in the link you shared (thanks for that). But even if it works well the fact it exists at all illustrates the problems with using an external GPS receiver in Android.

By the way, I didn't get the sense you needed the Garmin GLO for it to work. Looking at both the Support article and the app description on Google Play and it's reviews, it seems like it should work with any Bluetooth GPS.

Unfortunately I can't test the Bluetooth GPS app because I no longer have the Nexus 9. I've loaned it to a friend who wants to familiarize himself with Android. For someone who wants to go that route (using an Android tablet with an external Bluetooth GPS), the reviews look encouraging.

...ken...
Ken in Regina
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boyd
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But I just hate voice prompts so all my navigation apps and devices are permanently muted.
I'm just the opposite. I much prefer voice prompts so I don't have to take my eyes off the road to look at the GPS display. I sometimes use Google Maps for quick local directions to someplace in town I've never been to yet. I poke "Directions" on it and slip it into a slot above the radio on the dash where I can't even see the screen, and let it talk me to where I'm going. Works a treat!

That's not a criticism, just an illustration of how different and personal the different usage preferences are.

We have a Honda minivan and a Mazda 3 car. In both cases the pne speaker at maximum volume is sufficient to hear the directions. As long as I don't have the music on the radio cranked up.

As you said, if I have the phone connected to the Bluetooth system in the car's audio system, it will mute anything else on the audio system.

...ken...
Boyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken in Regina
By the way, I didn't get the sense you needed the Garmin GLO for it to work. Looking at both the Support article and the app description on Google Play and it's reviews, it seems like it should work with any Bluetooth GPS.
Yes, it should work the same for any bluetooth GPS, and that is what I said above.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boyd
it is very straightforward to set it up and should work pretty much the same for any brand of Bluetooth GPS.
Android has a test mode for GPS apps that allow them to work with a "spoofed" location, and the Garmin instructions tell you how to enable this. Then the Bluetooth GPS app just constantly copies data from the external device to the spoofed location, which should make it available to any app that uses the normal Android system.

Some apps may directly read from the GPS, and that could be a problem. IIRC, OruxMaps can be configured to work either way. I tried a number of apps on my Samsung tablet and they all worked fine with the GLO. But my interest is confined to apps that allow me to import my own maps. So there could be other apps that won't work.

Anyway.... whatever, since the OP is getting a tablet with an internal GPS chip. But the ability to use a higher quality external receiver might also be worthwhile in the future, especially in a big vehicle where the optimum mounting location may not be the best place to get a good GPS signal.

Just as a side note, unlike Android, iOS has builtin-in support for bluetooth GPS devices. Just pair the bluetooth device with your iPhone or iPad and you are all set. The only thing I don't like is that you sometimes wonder if it's really using the bluetooth device or internal chip. Evidently, iOS will automatically switch between them based on the perceived "accuracy" of the data.
ron4adams
I just observed that the LG Gpad x 8.0 V520 lists the battery as 1 A. I have never seen any thing other than a lithium Ion. How does this compare?
Ken in Regina
I don't understand the question? What is it you want a comparison of?

For what it's worth, the LG Gpad x 8.0 V520 has a lithium Ion battery just like all the others.

https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pad_x_8_0-8081.php

...ken...
ron4adams
Sorry, when I scrolled over the specs I must have misread what it said about the battery. Thanks
GoneNomad
"4,800 mAh Battery"

https://www.lg.com/us/tablets/lg-V520-g-pad-x-8.0

Scroll down to "Technical Specifications" for more info.
ron4adams
Well, it is done. The LG GPad should arrive next week. Being influenced by this discussion board I am looking closely at the Tomtom trip planning software and tablet app for my navigation. If I need help I know where to turn. Thanks for all the input.
Ken in Regina
Congratulations! I hope it works well for you.

It would be nice if you could keep us posted on what you think of the tablet and the navigation software and apps you end up working with. It's always nice when you can add to the knowledge base.

...ken...
ron4adams
Just completed a "chat" with a Tomtom service rep and one of my comments " I have heard that when the saved route is synced with the GO app the route only shows the first and last stop and the navigated route simply goes from the first to last, ignoring all destinations in between." was followed, after some research time by the rep, by the following " I have planned a multi stop route on my app using the online planner and have saved under MyRoutes. The exact track/route is shown on the GO app when I load the route from MyRoutes." After I receive my tablet I intend to plan a trip around town (Prescott, AZ) with 5 or more stops and then navigate them. Will let you know how it works out.
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by ron4adams
Well, it is done. The LG GPad should arrive next week...
Excellent choice.
The GPad X 8.0 is just about the only choice for and Android tablet with both microUSB (charging/data) AND a full-size type A USB host port, meaning USB-to-go is not required and it leaves the charging port always available. You could even use an external USB GPS receiver if you wanted to. But the GPad's internal GPS is very accurate.
Boyd
Cool Ron - will look forward to your report!



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