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Earl Troutman
The one place TomTom struggles with are complex interstate areas where several lanes are side by side but traffic cannot change from one to another. Even at maximum view it will put me in a lane that may be headed west, but I'm actually in a lane 12 feet over that is headed east. So it's not just S&T or SA - these map programs can only do so much.
Earl Troutman
One reason I don't fuss too much anymore about SA is, I can do many of the same functions on my computer using my TomTom database. The new TomTom maps can be loaded on your home computer, and you can plan routes and search for POI that way, on a much larger screen. I guess Garmin may be able to do the same - but I don't know that.
GoneNomad
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Originally Posted by Earl Troutman
The one place TomTom struggles with are complex interstate areas where several lanes are side by side but traffic cannot change from one to another. Even at maximum view it will put me in a lane that may be headed west, but I'm actually in a lane 12 feet over that is headed east. So it's not just S&T or SA - these map programs can only do so much.
I took my newly installed ALK CoPilot (on a Toshiba Thrive/Android 4.0.4) out for a test drive today, and it did the same thing twice on one short trip: gave verbal directions to "keep right" (in the area circled in red below) when in fact what was needed was to stay straight (blue arrow):

CoPilot didn't finally say to "keep left" until it was WAY too late, if someone didn't already know which way to go, or had been following the previous "keep right" instructions.

In the other case, (in the area circled in red) CoPilot kept saying to turn right ahead, even though that was not even possible, without turning on to the wrong road:

In this case it may have been saying to turn right simply because the road we were on curved to the right as it transitioned from a ramp to the road itself, but who knows? It kept saying to "turn right on Forder Road" but the ONLY way to turn right in the area would be onto Lemay Ferry Road, and if somebody was not familiar with the roads (which is why they might use a nav system), they might follow the instruction to turn right if they did not see the physical road signage. Forder Road is definitely not any kind of right turn (which is what it said) from the area circled in red. CoPilot does NOT speak street names at all using the built-in voices (which are easier to understand because they sound better and clearer), it only speaks street names if using the Android text-to-speech voice, which often sounds kludgy in CoPilot. And even using that voice, CoPilot sometimes only announces the route number (even though it might also display the street name), and if that happens when it's also saying to turn the wrong way, it would be easy to get off course.

The Google Nav gives much more complete and easier to understand (hear over road noise) audible directions. It is leaps and bounds better than Copilot; in fact it it is much better than any standalone GPS Nav. I've ever heard.
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Ken in Regina
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Originally Posted by Earl Troutman
One reason I don't fuss too much anymore about SA is, I can do many of the same functions on my computer using my TomTom database. The new TomTom maps can be loaded on your home computer, and you can plan routes and search for POI that way, on a much larger screen. I guess Garmin may be able to do the same - but I don't know that.
Yes, Garmin has two computer programs for map management and trip planning on your PC or laptop. They are free, just add Garmin-compatible maps and get at it.

I have Garmin maps for roads and for topo. I have third party maps from sources like OpenStreetMaps.com and similar that are compatible with all my Garmin stuff. And I have transparent overlays for ATV, hiking and biking trails that display over top of the road or topo maps of your choice.

Garmin's desktop programs also provide features that make it really easy to manage waypoints (Favorites), tracks and routes, and share them among your devices and with friends.

...ken...
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