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Cougar-

Thank you for clarifying, I better understand your questions.

Regarding the gas stations, we will evaluate the idea of showing the brand of gas rather than the name of the gas station in the future and see how and if we can do this.

Regarding Petit Jean State Park, in the case of routing, the application wants to start you from a specific location, so in the case of a park or other larger area, we want you to provide more information, so we start you at the best location. We will evaluate how that is working, as it wasn't clear to you why you were being prompted to go the Advanced Find Tab.

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Shannon
DeLorme
www.delorme.com

Shannon,

In regards to the gas stations, you currently display food stores which may also sell gas. I think you should display a gas station icon for any place that sells gas, even if it is also a food or convenience store.

Am I the only one who thinks this way? Anybody else care to comment?

Thanks,
Coiugar

Cougar, I do see gas stations in my area. At a certain zoom level, DeLorme Street Atlas actually displays the name of the gas station. In contrast, Microsoft Streets & Trips only shows a generic gas station icon, with no name. To get the gas station name in S&T, one needs to double-click the POI icon.

But I have to admit, I don't much use POIs, and other users may give different feedback from their own experience.

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Marvin Hlavac

PC GPS software reviews | Stores offering discounts to our members: Semsons & Co. Inc. and Deluo Electronics

Terry - I'm not sure if you've seen the setup I have in my truck, but you might want to check it out for an idea. You can see my pics in my photo album. I also posted about it here:
Truck laptop/GPS setup

Basically, I have a 7" touchscreen that I mounted to my sunvisor in my truck. It's in easy view but also keeps the dash clear.

Here's one pic of the mounted screen:

Have they fixed the problem of driving west on the 401 and trying to go south on the 403 in Mississauga? I keep ending up going NORTH to the first exit, looping over the overpass and entering southbound! They missed some of the connections! Have they also fixed the exit from the 401 westbound at Bathurst Street, or the mess from the 401 eastbound to Yonge Street northbound? Their mapping of these connections has been screwed up since they started providing Canada mapping at the street level.

Yes, I saw your visor mount and loved it. A great place to reduce the change of focus from road to GPS. I'm not sure my visor (way smaller than yours) would be suitable but I will look into it.
Thank you
Terry

Hey, look who is here! Bob, a.k.a. RsH, welcome to the forum! It's very nice to see you here!

I'm not sure about the Hwy-401 issue, but I will look at it. However, how was your experience with using earlier version(s) of DeLorme Street Atlas on Hwy-401 in Toronto, since the map is not aware that the highway consists of express lanes, collector lanes, transfer lanes, etc?

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Marvin Hlavac

PC GPS software reviews | Stores offering discounts to our members: Semsons & Co. Inc. and Deluo Electronics

Marvin, Street Atlas is lovely in lot of ways, but forget it for the 401! I'm planning a trip to Utah again, and this time I am using S&T and Street Atlas to plan, and an ASUS R300 PND [runs IGO] in the car as well. Street Atlas screws up royally at Yonge Street going east from the 401 to north on Yonge, exiting at Bathurst Street from the 401 westbound [that one is a real classic... you'd drop 20 plus feet into the park if you tried to get off the way they show, and for going from the 401 westbound to the 403 to get down to the QEW at the Ford Plant in Oakville. I've complained about all three since they started to cover Canada and they still don't have these exits correct. Since I know the truth about the 401 after all these years, I just don't pay attention to what Street Atlas produces as far as that is convered. I really need it from the duty free at Fort Erie on to Pittsburgh, and then west to Pikes Peak, Moab, Ogden and back until I get to Sarnia. Then I do NOT need any program <grin> since I've driven them a few times already. Basically I only use the lagtop to prepare for the trip, look up addresses, and so on... and then will use the ASUS R300 for the rest. Love that little GPS and it has a replaceable Lithium Ion battery too,. plus an FM transmitter, etc. The larger version is more than I need or my wife would put up with <grin> as she definitely considers it a toy!

But it too has problems. I just decided to plan a trip from Yonge and Elmhurst to the Mandarin at 1027 Finch Avenue West, and the ASUS takes me to the traffic light past the Mandarin to make a U turn to come back to the lot where the Mandarin is located. They seem to think that Finch has a concrete separator there... WRONG...

Oh well... and keep on GPS ing...

RsH, I just looked at the areas you mentioned in your previous post.

Re: W/B Hwy-401 to S/B Hwy-403: Street Atlas 2009 doesn't seem to want me to go that way. It routes me off the Hwy-401 at Dixie, down to Eglinton Ave, and then to Hwy-403.

Re: Hwy-401 exits at Bathurst St: Street Atlas 2009 includes 2 exits which do not exist in the real world, and one exit is placed in wrong location.

Re: W/B Hwy-401 to N/B Yonge St: Street Atlas 2009 seems to route OK

But as you've found out even with iGo (which uses Teleatlas map data), no product is perfect .

Try the exit from the 401 EASTbound to Yonge Street Northbound - that is the screwed up one, and the one I often use. In real life we go over Yonge and under all of the 401 to merge into Yonge northbound. If THAT exit is right I'll eat the DVD!

As for the 401 west to 403 south, put a via on the 403 south of the ramp from the 401 and north of the first entrance to the 403 south of the ramp and see what happens. I get it going NORTH to the first exit, taking the exit, crossing over the highway and entering to go south from there to the via and beyond <grin>

This looks right to me. Is this the way it should look? If so, score another one for Metroguide Canada.

...ken...

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How does this look? Seems right to me. Does (Garmin's) MG Canada score another hit??

For what it's worth, I get the same results for both of these in Garmin's City Navigator North America v8, which should be about the same vintage as SA 2007 and S&T 2007.

...ken...

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Yes, Ken, that's the correct routing in those areas. I was just going to check the routing for E/B Hwy-401 to N/B Yonge St in DeLorme Street Atlas 2009, but there really is no need for that, because a quick look at the map reveals that the representation of the off ramps still does not mach reality.

The DeLorme Street Atlas 2009 lack of highway detail in Toronto very much reminds me of what I saw in earlier version(s) of ALK CoPilot. However, the new ALK CoPilot Laptop 11 has improved (corrected) this.

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Marvin Hlavac

PC GPS software reviews | Stores offering discounts to our members: Semsons & Co. Inc. and Deluo Electronics

No match to reality at all... Has anyone figured out if there is a way to edit the roads at the 401 wb to 403 sb intersection so that it maps correctly? I've tried making everything two way and even that didn't work, so my best guess is that they missed connecting some of the roads or ramps, but my drawing of a routable road OVER the existing road also did not work. I must be missing something... and I have 2009 installed now...

RsH-

User added routable roads do not work on limited access highways, because 401 and 403 are both limited access highways, what you have drawn in will not work.

If you want to send me your data correction (including the routable roads you have drawn in) via private message, I will make sure to forward it to our data revisions department for their evaluation and review.

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Shannon
DeLorme
www.delorme.com