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  #16  
Old Feb 4, 2009, 10:23 PM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Keys will not open last used file on one of my laptops. It is xp pro, every thing is set exactly as on the first system but it will only open the original file when starting. S&T 2009, latest keys 2.54, 2gig hz pent, 1 gig memory. Any suggestions ??
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Old Feb 4, 2009, 11:45 PM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Can you give additional details of what you have done exactly?
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 05:09 AM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

... also, open Streets & Trips, and then on the menu bar click File (Alt+F). There on the bottom (above Exit) you should see listed your last used files. Click on the #1. What happens? Does the file open? (If it does, S&T Keys should likely be able to open it, too.)
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 08:19 AM
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The first last file in the file menu will open correctly with a click, that is what I don't understand . I have reinstalled keys to no avail. this system was a clean install of XP. I haven't tried other functions in keys, but will do so soon. I have four laptops running S&T and keys and also run Delorme on them. I have probably installed keys on 20 systems and have never had any problems, but this is the first one with XP pro that was installed by a corporate IT person and I feel something isn't set correctly.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 08:33 AM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Try to disable starting last used file, and then enable the feature again. See if that helps.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 09:07 AM
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Tried your suggestion Marvin, didn't work. Tried F1,F2,F4and F6 these all worked ok.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 09:31 AM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Check the Keys.ini file. On my (Vista) laptop I can locate it in the following location:

C:\Users\Marvin\Keys.ini

The file should contain the following line:

OpenLastSavedFile=1
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 09:36 AM
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It is a 1
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 12:10 PM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Marvin or Mister Moonlight,

What is the default behaviour in Keys if the operating system refuses to allow Open permission on the last-used file? Does it then default to a default or primary file?

XP Pro (and all versions of Vista and Windows 7) has the notion of Ownership that XP Home does not. This can cause all sorts of unusual situations that are never encountered in XP Home or earlier versions of Windows.

One thing that has helped on both my XP Pro system and my Vista system is to set the option for "Use Simple File Sharing" on. Yes, even if you aren't networked or allowing file sharing on that machine or drive or folder. It has a side-effect on how XP Pro (and onward) deals with file ownership and permissions.

(How-To: In Windows Explorer (aka My Computer) in the folder with the offending last-used file - click TOOLS - click FOLDER OPTIONS - click the VIEW tab - scroll to the bottom of the list and check "Use Simple File Sharing" - click APPLY button. You may also have to click the "Apply To All Folders" button if you want this to apply across the entire machine .. I can't recall now.)

This may have no effect but it's simple to turn on and off so it's probably worth a shot.

...ken...
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 01:27 PM
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Set to simple and all folders, still not working. Has to be something like this as other keys functions work ok. Thanks for trying to help.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 01:46 PM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

Sorry, I have been busy last few hours, and I haven't had the time to look into it. Going by what I remember, S&T Keys finds out the name of the last used file by reading the registry, and then it opens the file. I'll try to look at the code later tonight when I get home.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 05:12 PM
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Found the problem. Somehow S&T got set to save files as templates, Do not belive I did it but it happened when moving files from another computer. Because all maps other than the basic NA map were templates it could only open NA Map as it cant open templates. The FILE last used menu doesn't show file type. It only took me about 4 hrs to find this. Stupid is as stupid does. hehehe
Thanks for the help
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 05:28 PM
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re: S&T Keys for Streets & Trips 2009 Comments And Questions

HP, thanks for your persistence in looking for the cause of the issue! It saved us all time.
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 07:46 PM
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Hocus Pocus said:
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Stupid is as stupid does. hehehe
Not stupid at all cause you find the problem by yourself

On all the systems you installed S&T Keys (>20 ), did you get any kind of problems?
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Old Feb 5, 2009, 07:56 PM
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Installations were on 2007, 2008, 2009 over their time span. Run of mill prob, but monitored the gps passion forum and now here to get fixes. Mostly used by fellow RV type people and in conjunction with Delorme. Most use Delorme for nav and S&T for backup poi finding.
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