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Aug 21, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
As we've discussed in response to a similiar post from bikerjoe on another thread, the other navigation programs are also limited to two installs (or even just one!).
Also, if your Streets & Trips is crashing, check that it's not caused by your GPS receiver.
Finally, if I may make a suggestion -- you'll be much happier in life if you can find a way not to get stressed by random irritations. Worked for me. :-)
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Aug 21, 2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
Hey bikerjoe,
Here’s a possible solution, just copy the map data files from either Streets & Trips 2008 or 2009 back into 2007 and use 2007 instead.
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Aug 21, 2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
The one that was introduced in the fall of 2004, when Streets & Trips 2005 released? it seems there are still people who after all these years remember, and dearly miss, the old way of doing things. It did allow more user control...
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Yes, that's the one. It's not at all that we/I am accustomed to do things the "old way". It's not logical with the slider. I find that we all tend to drive a particular pattern and have an overall individual "average" speed that we drive. Adjusting for time/routes in trip planning can go a long way if we can enter our speed, say, driving at an overal average highway speed of 90 km/hr as measured by a GPS. Garmin has it in their Mapsource Products and Microsoft did too. I dont know why the software engineer at Microsoft decided in his/her infinite wisdom to remove it back in 2005. Besides, unless something has changed in the 2009 version, I have not heard of any S&T version that takes into account various speed limits in different jurisdictions.
Last edited by Newbee; Aug 21, 2008 at 11:29 PM.
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Aug 22, 2008, 12:58 AM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
Why not leave everything at average? Sooner or later you will figure out how it relates to your driving. Anyway, stated ETA has never been a thing that I put any faith in. There are far too many variables in traffic flow over anything but the shortest distance.
Terry
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Aug 22, 2008, 02:02 AM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
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Originally Posted by taoyue
As we've discussed in response to a similiar post from bikerjoe on another thread, the other navigation programs are also limited to two installs (or even just one!).
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Yes, I know that. It is a silly policy IMHO.
Now WHY didn't they just make the battery replaceable?
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Finally, if I may make a suggestion -- you'll be much happier in life if you can find a way not to get stressed by random irritations. Worked for me. :-)
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But ... there is so much wrong with the world ... chocolate ice cream isn't chocolate enough, and I never got a pony, and ... and .. and why don't they make Spider Man pajamas in MY size?!?
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Aug 22, 2008, 02:05 AM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
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Originally Posted by Marvin Hlavac
With GPS 
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Well, that would make it more palatable, but then what would I do with seven GPS antennas? eBay???
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Aug 22, 2008, 07:22 AM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
I don't know this for a fact, but the number of installations allowed, and the requirement to activate the product, may be something that Navteq requires. It may not be just something companies like Microsoft, Garmin, iNav, and others, decided to do on their own.
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Aug 22, 2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
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Originally Posted by bikerjoe
Well, that would make it more palatable, but then what would I do with seven GPS antennas? eBay??? 
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No, wait until the software-only SKU gets listed on Amazon (or your retailer of choice). The availability date is still three weeks away.
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Aug 22, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
The concept of not allowing multiple installations is borne out of a large software company's fear that someone will start MASS producing copies and SELLING them in massive quantities thereby siphoning the company's revenue.
An individual user needs to install ANY software onto several computers, and is NEITHER profiting from the multiple installations, NOR running around to install it onto his or her friend's computers. It makes sense to the USER to install it on more than two computers, especially when that individual is using those computers for a small business or a sole-proprietorship. This is due to the FACT the computers (who are practically FORCED to use Microsoft's Windows O/S in order to be anything more than a glorified calculator) CRASH on a regular basis. This is not a secret!
A crashed PC is one thing, but if that crash takes out access to your five or six critical business programs, Excel, Word, Power Point, QuickBooks, IE(n) and so forth, that crash becomes a disaster. Combine this with releases of service packs that MS requires which, when installed, generally CAUSE more problems than they solve. (XP SP-3, for instance)
Many business use MANY computers and duplicate their PCs so that if one or two computers go down, their business DOESN'T go down with them. That is another fact.
The concept of controlling every computer on the planet was born at Microsoft, and it is also no secret that the tactics used to sell computers over the years, where you couldn't BUY a functional computer unless it had Windows xx installed, proves this point. Otherwise you'd have to buy parts and build your own, or wipe the drive on your newly purchased unit and void any warranty.
Microsoft and other companies need to learn the lesson that, when you go fishing on a lake, you never catch ALL of the fish.
Still, I respect and comply with their wishes, which is why I purchased TWO copies of S&T 2008, and may or may not purchase three copies of 2009, depending on the price and the improvements made over what I have already purchased.
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Aug 24, 2008, 08:13 AM
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Aug 26, 2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
thanks for that lead to the 2009, i spent some time looking, but how does one enable perspective view, i cant seem to find the button to en/dis-able it.....
gg
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Aug 26, 2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
To view the map in perspective view. You need to have 'Provide Navigation' checked and then select the 'Navigation view' under 'Arrange Map view'
All these controls are in the GPS pane.
Last edited by Gladwin; Aug 27, 2008 at 05:38 PM.
Reason: added image
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Aug 28, 2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
thanks for the help with that!
im impressed that for the first time, this app actually looks and feels updated this year, and doesnt have that 90s feel to it anymore. what a relief, especially the better toolbar and the option to save 'terrain' instead of having to enable it every time.
although, the 'navigation view', i wish that too was a button on the toolbar, because on my gps units i own, i use that the most often, switching all the time between 2d and 3d. so as a toolbar button i wouldnt have to keep that pane open, and i could quickly access it all the time in any screen mode.
also, perhaps 'navigation view' should just be called '3d view' as with gps units, since well, the whole program is about navigation, and i dont see how the word 'navigation' ties in with the 45-degree angle view. so thats my one wish, there was a button that just said "2d/3d" to quickly switch between the two.
thanks
gg
florida
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Sep 2, 2008, 03:25 PM
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Re: Microsoft Streets and Trips 2009 will speak street names
Used 2009 first time this last weekend...I almost wet myself laughing so hard...
SR-99 (state route)...
"Senior 99"...
...and BUS-80 (business 80),
was "Bus 80" , (i.e., school bus)
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